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Points: 189 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2005 at 17:31

If Stix here, so have to be here:

Nine Inch Nails,

ELO,

Led Zeppelin,

Japan,

Air,

Seru Giran,

and so many others in prog-related

 
THERE`S TO MUCH MUSIC AND SO LITTLE TIME TO LISTEN TO IT

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The Grand Illusion is prog; it's just not very good prog. I haven't played it for 20 years at least.
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Points: 876 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:26

I like Styx. Point one...are they prog? not sure...

Prog RELATED ?? yeah.. but that term almost defines 'vague'...!!

SO many bands are prog 'related'. OK, look at Iron Maiden; they have the 14 minute song 'rime of the ancient mariner' and the 10 minute song 'Seventh son of a seventh son', those two songs are totally prog. Same can be said for the Grateful dead's 'Terrapin station', 16+ mins of orchestral stuff, its wonderful!

I think it is very hard to draw ANY line, to me; Ultravox and New order are kinda prog. BUT SO MANY BANDS are kinda prog!! It is whatever we like!! I truly believe Muse and Radiohead should NOT be here, but Iron Maiden and Metallica SHOULD. Makes no sense to me, but hey! Its all a collective here eh?

 
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Points: 442 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2005 at 18:47

Originally posted by dream_orchestra dream_orchestra wrote:

deadly boring, bland and definitely nowhere near prog. Music to shoot your neighbour for playing.

Judging by your name, you like Dream Theater.  Well...this desciption basically sums up every DT has done.  And if Styx isn't prog, then neither is DT.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 26 2005 at 21:12

This is no joke....but i'll tell you what.............. STYX AIN'T PROG OR PROG RELATED.

And, why was my thread name changed........??????????????
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Styx have been in the archives ever since I joined (about a year ago).  I was very surprised to see them in here, but I'm not going to argue with it.  If Styx are prog, so many other late '70s bands could also be considered prog, like Boston (hmmm...I wonder if they're in the archives yet - I hope not).
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

As Styx are categorised as "Prog Related", I don't see the problem!

 

..and it may be a good idea to change the title of your thread...

i second the motion....

my dad intoduced me to styx when i was at the age of 5... loved them then... still love their music now (twenty years after)

not prog.... but related.....

as for the title of the thread.............. yeah... might as well change it..

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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 01:15

I didn't include STYX in Prog Archives, but added the Biography because there was not one when I joined this site.

And I'm not ashamed, as a matter of fact I believe I was pretty clear and honest with my perspective about this band:

Quote STYX is one of those bands that are always mentioned with some fear and shame by the progressive fan because they always played in the border that divides progressive rock from plain POP, I believe the best way to describe them is as a mixture of Art Rock band (understanding this description as the simplest and more commercial form of Progressive Rock) and AOR, somehow in the same vein as JOURNEY or BOSTON but a bit more complex.

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAN D.asp?band_id=431 

I'm not sure if they are 100% Prog', but honestly I enjoyed The Grand Illusion very much back in 1978, I believe they are an excellent band with some proggish elements in their first albums.

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Almost all arena rock bands are prog related.
I don't see any problem with them being listed as a prog-related artist
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 10:09
Originally posted by Majestic_Mayhem Majestic_Mayhem wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

As Styx are categorised as "Prog Related", I don't see the problem!

 

..and it may be a good idea to change the title of your thread...

i second the motion....

my dad intoduced me to styx when i was at the age of 5... loved them then... still love their music now (twenty years after)

not prog.... but related.....

as for the title of the thread.............. yeah... might as well change it..

I only mentioned this when the thread was called "Holy f**k" or something like that!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 19:58

I hate Dream Theatre, anothe ridiculous inclusion, but most from across the Atlantic need something to cling onto and pop orientated bland music seems to fit the bill as prog over there.

The power of originiality is lost, long live censorship.
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I don't see much wrong with considering Styx' early releases as prog or prog related...me, I always liked Tommy Shaw's stuff, but didn't like DeYoung...he was too schmatzy for me in general, and James Young voice is just sub par, so many of his songs end up being tainted by that (much like Steve Howe).
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Points: 1140 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 20:22
Originally posted by dream_orchestra dream_orchestra wrote:

I hate Dream Theatre, anothe ridiculous inclusion, but most from across the Atlantic need something to cling onto and pop orientated bland music seems to fit the bill as prog over there.

The power of originiality is lost, long live censorship.



I am beginning to think the only thing ridiculous are your comments.


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Points: 1140 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 20:23
As for Styx being here, I guess they they have as much right as any.  Especially since they have only been included in the category as prog related.  Much of their early 70's music is very proggy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 27 2005 at 20:25
What right is that??????????????
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Points: 230 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2005 at 00:54
A modestly talented bunch of kids from Chicago.

They had their moments.

Cut them some slack.

I did.

Didn't kill me.

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Points: 26 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2005 at 01:04

A few songs of Styx are great, like Ballerina (my favorite) and Suite Madame Blue, just check it out.
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2005 at 01:11

I don't believe STYX are Prog related, to be honset I don't believe in such a thing as Prog Related.

I believe the term Art Rock as the limit between Prog and mainstream defines exactly what Styx is.

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Points: 145 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2005 at 01:25

Yeahˇˇ Ballerina is a great song, but Styx are not prog.
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