We -need- progressive rap.

So true ^

Jazz and rap do work, though. Steve Coleman's band recorded a very cool album with three MCs, and he wasn't the only jazz musician to do so.

Prog rap's a good idea, I'm quite certain it could exist (and probably it exists already, I don't really know enough about rap)

MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ Anglagard are a regressive prog band. Just like Wobbler!

No Mike, I disagree, Anglagard is a Progressive Symphonic band here and everywhere, nothing more and nothing less.

IMO much better than many Progressive Symphonic bands of the 70's, I place them right after Genesis or maybe Pink Floyd, but again, that's only my taste.

About being part of the Progressive Rock genre, they are and that's a fact nobody in the world can deny.

Iván

Man Overboard wrote: Many of the more brilliant elements of prog came from so-called "black man's music".  f**king racist.

That's uncalled for. He was stereotyping, but he wasn't being nasty. You, on the other hand... restrain yourself!

I think, unfortunately, black kids think they have to listen to rap because that's what they're told they should be listening to.

genesis24601 wrote: My god, what are you thinking? That's like insane! I'm not sure if prog is a black man's thing(not meant to offend.) I mean, they usually lean towards the music that make people dance and songs that you can sing along with. Prog rock contains neither of those. That's not to say I don't like either one, but still, it's not quite there. However, prog funk?

You're right, prog is a white men thing but  we have to be white nerds and at the same time  dirty pigs who never take a bath with long beards, weed  smokers  who have nothing better to do with our live than to watch Star Trek and play Dungeons and Dragons in the basement of our parents house where we live even if we're 60 years old.

No women allowed, no blacks (maybe as drummers because they have rhythm) or  latins (those only like salsa). Sometimes  can be admited some second or third generation oriental guys  if they play bass in a Prog Metal band.

HOLY SH!T, I hate Rap and I think I stated my opinion in this thread, but hate racism and stereotypes more.

Iván

greenback wrote: what ivan tries to tell us is that he daily has to deal with criminal rappers who try to convince the judge that they are innocent. one day, a prosecuted rapper put some rap music in the court room, and suddenly, ivan grabbed the radio and threw it  violently into the wall: he said to the rapper: YOU ARE GUILTY!

LOL, that's not a stereotype, I only pointed one case

Iván

BTW: Everybody is writting stories today, just read one hilarious about a Genesis reunion and now Greenback also.

Goose wrote:

I have to disagree there - I'm not saying at all that melody isn't important for, say, Pink Floyd as music, but I don't think how melodic they are is relevant to them as a space rock band.

I really don't know how relevant  we can consider the melody for Space Rock, but for Pink Floyd members it nust be relevant because they add it to: Lets say almost all their songs?

Even in the endless Psyche/space oriented or guitar keyboards solos  from their early albums and behind all those crazy sounds on DSOTM you have a melody, so it's important and very relevant for them.

But this is Bizantine discussion, don't really care if it's relevant or not , the point is that their music has melody, and in the case of rap I don't believe it's very often we can listen complex melodies.

Iván