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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 02:32
Wow.....amazing sounding stuff. Great thread and gonna hunt this album down as soon as possible. Squire has always been the ,most consistent...not so?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:18

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Yes music with Genesis like vocals...and Chris Squire? If you tell Mr Fripp is the guitarist Ill crap my pants right here, right now!

It looks a little like genesis, doesn't it?

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 12:53
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Yes music with Genesis like vocals...and Chris Squire? If you tell Mr Fripp is the guitarist Ill crap my pants right here, right now!

Mr. Fripp is the guitarist!!!!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 01 2005 at 15:19
I am definitely intrigued.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 11:37
I heard about this band a little while back after trying to find out further information about the Stacey brothers (Jeremy Stacey is the drummer in The Syn) after I saw them guesting at a Gov't Mule gig at the Mean Fiddler way back in March I think...  I thought this project looked intriguing indeed...

Also, Chris Squire played guest bass on a Gov't Mule track (Sun Dance) in 2002 (or there abouts) and it's great.  You can find it on Deepest End Volume 2 (or if you have the English box set (including both volumes), disc 2).  Definitely worth a listen.  Oh, I forgot to mention a guest appearence by Tony Levin too... who has also guested with them in concert and played 21st Century Schizoid Man...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 12:03
I've got tickets to see The Syn at the Marquee club on 15th November. In preparation I bought a 2 CD set of material from 1965-2004 yesterday, the promised new studio album not yet on the shelves. The old stuff is interesting but in truth not so great; the newer tracks seem much better though a version of Time and A Word in which Chris provides vocals is disconcerting, as in part he speaks the vocals and it reminds me of a record made by William Shatner!! All in all the vocals aren't so great, but I reckon they'll be good on stage. I'll still get the new album though. Let you know!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:08
Originally posted by flying teapot flying teapot wrote:

heard the clips, sounds very good, I had never heard Syn, is this what the original stuff was like?

From what I've heard, the new music is totally different from the old - after all, there's nearly 40 years difference. For we proggies, I think the new music is the way to go (the album Syndestructible), which you can get on Amazon here:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000BKUX2E/qid =1130987086/sr=8-2/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-9581272-0840611?v=glance &s=music&n=507846

The old stuff I've heard is more mod-pysch swinging 60s London, and frankly not as cool as a lot of other music from the period. And it's not prog.

But the new album, for me, sounds like it might be the best prog album of 2005, along with K2 "Book of the Dead."

And btw, The Syn just announced a half dozen US East Coast / West Coast tour dates for Jan 2006:

http://www.synmusic.net/index2.html

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:10
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

But doesn't answer the question: why was  It Bites' Francis Dunnery  another name in the frame, and like Gary Husband included in press-release photos of the anticipated touring Syn ?

Francis Dunnery was supposed to play guitar for The Syn on the aborted More Drama tour. Too bad - It Bites was a great band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:12
Originally posted by hcnoer hcnoer wrote:

btw, is Pete Banks included in this "new" Syn?

Banks was originally involved in the reunion (Squire was not), but there was a falling out of some kind. As usual, Banks got super bitter.

Anyway, Squire is on board now, which is more thrilling to me, although it would have been cool to have both. I like Banks' solo stuff.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:13

Originally posted by kenmeyerjr kenmeyerjr wrote:

Well, Chris Squire's solo album is probably my favorite Yes solo album, so I will definitely try to be on the lookout...if only my memory wasn't so terrible...

Dude, just pre-order it on Amazon right now! Apparently the release date has been pushed back one week to Nov. 8

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 02 2005 at 22:17

Originally posted by Chris Stacey Chris Stacey wrote:

Wow.....amazing sounding stuff. Great thread and gonna hunt this album down as soon as possible. Squire has always been the ,most consistent...not so?

Squire is definitely VP of Quality Control for Yes.

That said, Open Your Eyes (which was supposed to be a Squire solo album) is among Yes' weakest albums, and the first album from Conspiracy (Squire/Sherwood side project) was pretty weak. Although the second Conspiracy album has three or four great songs.

And Squire has never turned out anything truly awful, like Anderson's The Promise Ring or The More You Know. Heck, I don't even listen to Deseo or Change We Must.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2005 at 11:09
Anyone heard the whole album yet?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:08

I am listening to this release right now...so far, I love the music, but the vocals are a tiny bit disappointing, as I was hoping to hear Chris singing all the time (loving Fish out of Water). The vocals seem somewhat pedestrian, but maybe I just have to get used to it.

Here's hoping the rest of the album have some Chris vocal leads on it!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 11:30
I've got the album, "Syndestructable", have listened to it several times, it's good but it's not great. Nothing at all like "Fish Out Of Water", I would have to say! The lyrics and melodies are all quite strong, the vocals (all by Nardelli) are a bit weak as are some of the arrangements. Most tracks are around 8 minutes, the final song "The Promise" is a 13 minute epic that probably justifies them being labelled "prog" (if we're into attaching labels!). The tracks are drive along at a fair pace, there isn't the complexity you'd find with Yes.
"Cathedral of Love" is the single and the most melodic number; "Golden Age" has hints of "Comfortably Numb" in the tune; my favourite track is "Golden Age" which has the best riff. All medium-heavy rock I would say (I'm not very good at describing it am I?).

I had also bought (mistakenly thinking it was the new album) a 2-CD compilation of Syn material, "Original Syn", the first disc being their old stuff -  scrappy in places - the second disc being 2004 recordings with Peter Banks (also of original Yes fame) and one track, Illusions, was very good indeed, ending with a nice guitar/moog duel. Sadly Banks did not work on the new album.

I'm off to see the band tomorrow night (Tuesday 15th) at the Marquee in London, looking forward to seeing Chris Squire in a smaller venue. I have a gut feeling the music will be much better on stage than on record, it sounds like the sort of music that needs to be played live. I'll let you know! If anyone else can make it please let me know! Tickets are £15, gig stars 7.30.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 20:27
Nice to see someone agrees with me about the vocals...man, I was so looking forward to a Fish Out of Water, part two...my mistake. Why would someone work so long and hard (I assume) on a project and have vocals that seem so laid back and lazy? Ah well, it is not bad, just not great...almost seems like a waste of the music, which is pretty good (again, tho, no Yes or Squire solo).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 14 2005 at 21:48

Well, the toughest role to fill in a band is always the singer, esp in prog. I mean, I would like Rush but....

I haven't received my copy of the album yet, but Nardelli does sound a bit like Gabriel or at least Shaun Guerin (sp?).

And he sounds at least sounds at least as good as Billy Sherwood. Which, btw, if you want to hear some Squire lead vox, I'd check out the second Conspiracy album "The Unknown." It's more neo-prog or art rock than symphonic, but a couple tracks are very very proggy indeed, especially New World which has some of Squire's best bass playing since the 70s. It's on Amazon.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 11:04
Thanks, kirk, I will try to find that conspiracy cd, sounds good
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 11:59
The only Syn song I've heard is 14 Hour Technicolour Dream on the Nuggets box set.  The music was great, but the vocals were terrible.  Does the new Syn have the same vocalist as the original Syn?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 12:07
Originally posted by lunaticviolist lunaticviolist wrote:

The only Syn song I've heard is 14 Hour Technicolour Dream on the Nuggets box set.  The music was great, but the vocals were terrible.  Does the new Syn have the same vocalist as the original Syn?


Steve Nardelli is the vocalist now, and was on most of the original Syn material, though off hand I can't say about this particular track. I do have "Orignal Syn" compilation which includes 14 Hour techniclour dream, which I believe is the same version as you have. I'll check later and post back.

I would say that the vocals on the new album "Syndestructable" are OK but not great, however I still enjoyed the album (and the Syn launch gig I saw last night!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2005 at 16:54

I just got the album.  I'm on the second track, and it sounds great.  The vocals are pretty good.

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