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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 12:39

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Until people learn to think for themselves then the world will remain the terrible mess it is. Religion is one of the worse things on the planet in stopping the flow of induvidual thought.

of course not . religion improve the individual thinking, in fact religion help putting human thoughts on the right track. And you can never prove that a religious person could have had a better life or better thoughts if he were an anti religion one.

i wont argue more than that, we dont need another fight in this forum because of misunderstandings, we dont want to lose another one like peter rideout

I think this thread should be closed

when i sell my life story, maybe i should write it first and do the living later 'cause life is so much cleaner on the page
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 11:50
Yes, let this guy plays with the Playmobiles
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 11:47

Please guys; I took this with anger until I saw his front page with the magnificent drawing about King Crimson, Gentle Giant and Pink Floyd:

http://www.geocities.com/evilprogressive/

Holy God, the guy is a moron with an IQ probably inferior to 20. I know 4-year kids who can do a better drawing than this thing.

Then I saw his USA flag and message about "GOD BLESS THE USA!!!" and knew that he was worst, seems like a moronic redneck that tries to convince people with his false patriotism.

And at last I read his bio, he reads Christian literature and fishes as hobby, his life must be exiting.

The only thing I worry about is that this guy affirms is a youth counselor, if this is true, we may be seeing some Davidian groups and Wacko shootings very soon.

But don't take him seriously, the guy is such a jerk that doesn't have the intelligence to convince anybody, his arguments are so lame that nobody can take him seriously.

Just as a precaution, keep your children far from Marion Arkansas, this city may be in CNN very soon.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 11:10
Originally posted by Aquarius Aquarius wrote:

The part about fans feeling the urge to find new progalbums and to spend lots of money is true however.

Yes, it's true.

"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 06:42

Oh, Cliff
Sometimes it must be difficult not to feel as if
You really are a Cliff
When fascists keep trying to push you over it
Are they the lemmings?
Or are you Cliff?
Or are you, Cliff?

- Rick (The Young Ones)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 06:34
Originally posted by James Lee James Lee wrote:

Christian Rock (as a genre), on the other hand, has a single theme, and has completely failed to supply the world with a single artist worthy of respect.

How about Cliff Richard?

/ducks and runs away...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 05:11

I hadn't realised progressive rock was evil, I will stop litening to it immediately. What a fool I've been all these years. Why didn't anyone tell me before?Wink

I still have my long hair too... It's in a box under my bed.LOL

BTW I wonder if Neal Morse would agree with the views?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 04:18

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Until people learn to think for themselves then the world will remain the terrible mess it is.Religion is one of the worse things on the planet in stopping the flow of induvidual thought.Pink Floyd got it right with 'Sheep' as did Genesis with 'Carpet Crawlers' and ELP with 'The Only Way'.These are my scriptures and prog rock is my religion.

! Heard the latest from the vatican (as reported by the BBC's Panarama and World service)?. Apparently condoms have holes in them and actually contribute to the spread of aids. The scientific community are up in arms about it, and the poor man whose research has been held up as "proof" of this claim has had to come foreward to explain that he has been taken grossly out of context by a group whose only motive is the promotion of their own archaic dogma. If I want advice on my sex life, the last person I would turn to is a pensioner who claims to have lead a life of celibacy (if you discount all those choir boys that is.) One African catholic woman interviewed for Panorama exclaimed that if she caught aids and died, at least she wouldn't go to hell for using a condom! Her european priest had told her this!! Religion is nothing more than the politics of superstition and free thinkers should disregard it, as they (Capernicus, Galileo, Newton, Darwin, etc.) have always had to do. 

ps. Please don't attack me for this view, I realise a lot of good humanitarian work is the direct result of strongly (albeit  wrongly) held religious convictions. If you need a club as a vehicle for your desire to do good, then far be it from me to stop you joining one.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 03:33
Until people learn to think for themselves then the world will remain the terrible mess it is.Religion is one of the worse things on the planet in stopping the flow of induvidual thought.Pink Floyd got it right with 'Sheep' as did Genesis with 'Carpet Crawlers' and ELP with 'The Only Way'.These are my scriptures and prog rock is my religion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 02:38

Progressive rock (as a genre) has a lot of different themes (including many extremely christian ones !), and about as many bad bands as any genre, give or take a few.

Christian Rock (as a genre), on the other hand, has a single theme, and has completely failed to supply the world with a single artist worthy of respect.

It's really pretty hard to find religiously Satanic music; with almost no artistic traditions and a miniscule number of adherents, Satanism is a pretty puny force. You can find a lot of musical imagery and references to Satan and demons- most of it in the best judeo-christian tradition. Even evil old Ozzy was a pretty straight arrow in the christian spectrum- check out Black Sabbath's "After Forever", about as missionary a song as anything I've ever heard. What would this 'author' say about Dante, or Goethe, or even the Book of Revelations?

Ah, well. Good thing he's so ridiculous- makes it easy to spot them before they cause any real trouble :)

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 01:01

So no one is really impressed by this article because of the way the author presents his points of view.

The part about fans feeling the urge to find new progalbums and to spend lots of money is true however.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2004 at 00:26

 

Hey guys, I have nothing against religion, as a matter of facts I'm a religious person who accepts all believes and disbeliefs, everybody has the right to believe in the God they want or not believe in any God at all.

I've prayed in a Sinagogue and showed the most of respects in a Mosque because God is supposed to be tolerant, this guys who pretend they know what GTod wants and believes are the worst enemy of Religion, because they create a reaction in most of the inteligent and tolerant people.

What I hate most is FANATISM, it's stupid to believe in a God who is the supreme form of love and write panflets like this one that spread hate among the people.

When I played drums in a prog' cover (and mediocre ) band, there were groups of fanatics who said the same things about metal fans, but some of my best friends played in metal bands, they used long hair, weared leather, chains, some of them were atheist but none of them was a Satanist or ever showed disrespect for my beliefs, fundamentalism and sectarism are the worst enemies of mankind.

Quote Maybe he's a repentant prok rocker with a serious drug abuse history behind that blamed it all on prog rock! Mmmm yeah, that explains the whole thing."

Probably Maani, inthe drug abuse centers they try to create strong religious beliefs in the patients, because they need something strong enough to belief and have faith in to leave drugs, but sometimes they create monsters who use false religion against the people who doesn't think as them.

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 23:41

Landberkdoten:

"Maybe he's a repentant prok rocker with a serious drug abuse history behind that blamed it all on prog rock! Mmmm yeah, that explains the whole thing."

You may be closer to the truth than any of us know...

Peace.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 23:04

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

I think thats only true about Pink Floyd fans...

Hey! Watch your mouth young lady! A true Floydian fan here!

   

For a moment I thought you were trying to incarnate this Jeremiah clown  

BTW, the article regarding ELP is hilarious as well...

Peace,

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 20:09

Well then you'll love this... over at  atheistmusic.com.. ELP hold a very special place of honor....

http://www.telemark.net/atheistmusic/artist.dbm?artistid=54

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 19:45

[QUOTE=richard

I think however that there is some truth in some of his observations. Lots of big names in progrock had songs with demonic references or with anti-religious lyrics.

 

 

That the subject matter of a piece of music contains demonic references, or is anti-religious in its lyrical content, would no more persuade me to sacrifice a virgin next full moon, than a passing Salvation Army band would convince me that the universe was created within a week, and dinosaur fossils are Gods way of testing our faith in Genesis. (The book rather than the band. "Duke" tested my faith in them. To breaking point!!) 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 19:37
I think thats only true about Pink Floyd fans...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 19:27
I have to say that I read it now (even if I don't wanted to).
I didn't feel offended...I laughed my ass off !!!
This guy is a freakin' comedian...how can you take him serious, take it with a pinch of salt (is this the right expression? I once picked this one up somewhere...)
 
too funny...
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 18:59
Yes, I'm a left-wing liberal, I love progressive rock, I used to have my hair very long in my youthness, I spent lots of money in my life buying cds, I'm an atheist... So, I must be the worst person in this world   ... Please, what a enormous piece of stupidity!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2004 at 18:55
Originally posted by emdiar emdiar wrote:

If he hates prog so much, why has he come up with such an excellent sleeve design for a prog compilation album?

Hmmm... good question

...and why does he know that much about Jethro Tull, King Crimson and Pink Floyd? Maybe he's a repentant prok rocker with a serious drug abuse history behind that blamed it all on prog rock! Mmmm yeah, that explains the whole thing...  

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