Prog Metal: Organizing the categories

^Kris:

It's not really possible to be that specific with categorisations. Generally extreme vocals are only likely to occur in the red categories ... but they may be used occasionally by bands of the Power category, or even the Symphonic bands.

BTW: Rhapsody only used operatic vocals on one song (Lamento Eroico on Power of the Dragonflame).

But you're right in a way:

• The blue categories (neo/symphonic) are the most accessible ones for people who don't like raw metal.
• The green categories (orchestral/power) are more "raw", nonetheless they contain some pretty progressive bands. If you don't like neoclassical music or Power Metal (double bass riff oriented music), you might prefer the blue categories.
• The red categories are for the more adventurous people ... if you like RIO/Avant-Prog, you should be able to enjoy many of these bands. The rightmost category is that which has the extreme metal bands ... I'm currently not sure, but I'll probably move the experimental bands to the Avant category, so only the really extreme bands like Cynic, Death, DEP etc. will remain.

Edited by MikeEnRegalia

nimrodel wrote: why dont we just create progmetalarchives ?

Remember that even with 4 prog metal categories it's still 4 vs. 13 ...

i still like the old style better..

MikeEnRegalia wrote: nimrodel wrote: i still like the old style better.. What "style" is that ... no categorisation? Maybe we should remove all of the categories and just call it Progressive Music ...

categorisation was the word i was looking for.. yes , i think that it is better to have just one category: prog metal...

MikeEnRegalia wrote: nimrodel wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: nimrodel wrote: i still like the old style better.. What "style" is that ... no categorisation? Maybe we should remove all of the categories and just call it Progressive Music ... categorisation was the word i was looking for.. yes , i think that it is better to have just one category: prog metal... Ok, there are two different points of view here: Some say that Prog Metal is only a sub genre of Prog Rock, like Canterbury or Zeuhl. This would imply that all the bands in that genre are in some way similar. Others say that Prog Metal is not really a genre, but a phrase similar to Prog Rock. But the bands described by that phrase are very diverse, similarly to the diversity of the Prog Rock bands. Well, it's obvious that I choose the second theory. So if Prog Rock is divided into genres, why not divide Prog Metal as well?

make a poll about it and see what we proggers want...

Damn... I've thought this over a bit... I hope this will be more creative then my last...

• Extreme - I hope You get the picture here... I want bands like Meshuggah, Cynic, Opeth etc here...
• Virtuoso - band with lots of time changes, awesome musicianship, long instrumental parts, showing off etc... Dream Theater, Spiral Architect etc...
• Orchestral - Band with classical elements... We already talked bout this... but the music should be dark, or at least not soft & "nice"...(hope You understand my limited English)
• Symphonic - this may be strange, but I think that bands like Evergrey or Therion need 2 be separated form something like Shadow Gallery... This should have the more mellow, catchy "neo" feel that Mike talked bout...
• Avant/experimental (I like 2 call it Experimetal) - all the wacky, strange stuff with the metal edge... Fantomas & co get here... no use splitting avant & experimental me thinks...

Damn... 5 of them... quite a lot... hope everyone understood me...

*Runs for cover*

Thanks Ed!

Think about your Virtuoso category though ... aren't there bands from all of your other genres which are virtuose? Of course one might say the same for experimental or extreme ... but virtuosity is particularly general. Shadow Gallery are VERY virtuose, but so are Cynic or Rhapsody.

Apart from that your genres match mine ...  

MikeEnRegalia wrote: Thanks Ed! Think about your Virtuoso category though ... aren't there bands from all of your other genres which are virtuose? Of course one might say the same for experimental or extreme ... but virtuosity is particularly general. Shadow Gallery are VERY virtuose, but so are Cynic or Rhapsody. Apart from that your genres match mine ...

There's a relatively clear distinction between bands which use their technical playing as a central point (DT, WT, Spiral Architect, Behold... the Arctopus, Spastic Ink, Canvas Solaris etc.) and those who just happen to be able to play fast in their songs - Shadow Gallery, Zero Hour (not sure on these), Power of Omens. Maybe even DT would fit better in here, because despite long wankfests they do actually write songs too

Yeah, I wasn't sure on DT particularly, which is why I put them in both

^ I don't think that album tagging will be implemented any time soon. Ask Tony or M@x ...