Prog Metal: Organizing the categories

MikeEnRegalia wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Also "softer" prog metal bands could come in under the power metal category What do you mean by "softer" ... bands like Dead Soul Tribe?

Many metal bands like forexample Funeral for a friend focus these days on making ballads, incorporating piano pieces and stuff and has just bits here and there with metal approaches...just like Porcupine tree wich has metal influences sometimes

Hello again Mike,

Your list is making even more sense now but I would still advise you to get rid of the two left hand side column since they are bound to disappear (one into non-metal music and the other , the groups would get transferred in different metal categories) anyway !!

However, if your Extreme/experimental  and   Avant/unusual  column have been divided they might want to have the same origin as Neo/Symph and Orch/Power do! So this top header would be Avant/Extreme.

Although I am awed at this classification as I told you in the other thread in the collab zone , but like Ivàn , Friede and a few others I am wondering if this is really worth the trouble since M@X is planning a new version of the site where albums will have etiquettes and not groups anymore!  He has announced this for the month of March , and this re-organization of your would just last a few months! Ivàn is right saying that progmetal is already a subgenre of prog rock! Why not leave it at that and we can be creative to describe albums in the future version of the Archives!

I am one who do not like much the categorizatios in music and often humour them in my reviews. I have even created a few - such as Mariachi Prog to deride the awful Inca Rock category used to describe South America rock music - but the best one comes from Friede: Zeuhl-Metal 

I think that sub-genring sub-genres is relatively nerdy  and this goes for Symphonic prog as well progmetal . I do not know if you have seen the thread I made in the collab zone where I compare the other prog site and we talked a bit about ProGGnosis and there incredible way of sub-genring everything!

http://www.proggnosis.com/MAIN.asp

These guys are obsessive to the ridiculous: click on the different options in the Genre guide to get a laugh of this!

Do we really want to look like those guys?

Edited by Sean Trane

"Do we really want to look like those guys?"

YES!!  

opeth, kamelot and fantomas are not prog-metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kubla Khan wrote: opeth, kamelot and fantomas are not prog-metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MikeEnRegalia wrote: I doubt that it's possible, if you take into account that the archives don't have a full-time team of software developers.

Give me the code, and I'll tackle it.

BaldFriede wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: I doubt that it's possible, if you take into account that the archives don't have a full-time team of software developers. Give me the code, and I'll tackle it.

M@x is looking for volunteers ... it's ASP.NET mostly, not exactly my domain (I specialize in Java). I could get used to it, I just don't have the time.

Kubla Khan wrote: opeth, kamelot and fantomas are not prog-metal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fantômas are currently in RIO/Avant-prog, yes. I'm not sure about Kamelot. Power metal I think. Opeth are definitely Prog Metal!

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BaldFriede wrote: I have some time at hand, and it doesn't matter much if I spend it with my nose in a book or programming some. Not used to ASP.NET either, but can get used to it.

You can code in Visual Basic.NET - can't get much easier than that

Mike - I appreciate the effort you've put in as I'm new to prog metal, and I'd like to be able to pin down what genres I like so I don't have to waste my time listening to bands which end up being completely different to what I'm after.

BUT... I don't think you've paid enough attention to vocals in your categorisation. Personally, I like to know whether a band uses growling (or "harsh vocals"), like Opeth or Dilinger Escape Plan, so that I can steer well clear of them. It's also handy to know whether a classically influenced band uses opera style vocals, like Rhapsody do.