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Manunkind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
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Just copying and pasting my post from the "Truly Disgusting" thread.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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Any other thoughts on this? Here's the thread: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=7201&a mp;KW=covers&PN=0&TPN=10 |
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Well this is a ROCK site so Rock album covers are part of it> what this thread does (from what I could read anyway ) is denounce the ugly album cover: some are frankly tasteless , some are funny because theyare tacky and others can be considered offensive by some members> None of those covers have offensed so far (but I am relatively thick-skinned , not just on feedback from my reviews , but also about a lot of things in life) , and I participated in a discussion regarding Scorpion's Virgin Killer and Blind Faith's album for child nudity (not pornography) etc.... Those covers are on public view from rock record buyers and have been for 30 years (in the case of the two mentioned) and it has not caused censorship (except some rare lands)
I recognize there is some bad taste on the thread , but those not thick-skinned enough can always not open the thread - the title is warning you enough (I think!) before you even open it up! So if you think you shall be offended by such a subject , do not open it up!!! Simple as that!! I certainly do not mean to hurt Manunkind , who is clearly offended by the thread, but the best thing to do is ignoring the subject. The best/worst thing a thread like this will do is the exact reverse effect: it will bring even more attention to the controversial thread! Maani let this thread open (but he did intervene) and he is a minister (but also a great believer in freedom of speach), so you got one moral person that chose the laissez-faire attitude. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21555 |
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It might be a problem that in some countries some of those album covers might be illegal. In Germany for example, covers showing mutilated human bodies are outlawed. I don't think that this thread will have any legal consequences (nobody really cares) ... but on the other hand it also hasn't any real benefits, so if I were to decide I'd probably delete it. Edited by MikeEnRegalia |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20409 |
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the fact that he is insistant on closing that very thread, maybe? If I am wrong , please let me know... His first post was taken out of another thread about closing this thread and now this makes a second one> BTW , the post you quoted was mine but I had password problems and it is now fixed! |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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^well, he said himself that he knows covers much worse and doesn't wand to post them. He is also a fan of Cannibal Corpse and the likes and he said he takes their covers as "comic book gore"... Doesn't look like someone who likes Cannibal Corpse and Deicide can be offended by that Scorpions cover btw, I posted both Virgin Killer and Cannibal Corpse covers, I can delete them if they bothers you. Most covers there are just hilariously tasteless, not offencive. |
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Manunkind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
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I don't remember saying anything about closing the thread Yes, I am offended (or rather disgusted, since I'm sure no one here intended to offend anyone) by a few covers (especially those with willing or unwilling references to paedophilia) and feel that the gory ones (which I find funny, BTW) can disgust some people here. Really, it's all about the physical reaction. Why should people here be subjected to stuff which may literarly make them throw up on the screen? Sure, it's a thread about extremely bad album covers, but come on. I don't want such covers to be deleted, only replaced with links and a word of warning, so that you have a choice. As far as I know two or three covers were so ugly that they were deleted altogether. IMO these should also have been replaced with links. And the title is ambiguous enough - first time I saw the thread I thought it was about ridiculously inept and clumsy covers. And it's the case 90% of the time. Now if it had read "Shocking album covers"... |
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Manunkind ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 2373 |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20409 |
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Ok Manunkind , Sorry I thought you did want to shut it because this thread was started by you. Actually I do not really care about the thread , but I did have a good laugh when I leafed through it! But IMHO , the thread title does warn you enough! |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Dragon Phoenix ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2004 Status: Offline Points: 1475 |
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As the thread starter, let me chip in with my two Euro cents. It has never been my intention that this thread would evolve into something including mutilating corpses and naked virgins. On the toher hand, it is my opinion that on a message board the thread starter does not own the thread, and should therefore not complain about the direction the thread is taking. I was more looking for "so awful you have to laugh" type covers, though.
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Blog this:
http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
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The Miracle ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: May 29 2005 Location: hell Status: Offline Points: 28427 |
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all my fault |
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Sean Trane ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20409 |
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but we rather like naked virgins
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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