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pepolo
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 11:36 |
The Who - Kings of proto prog I'm on your side!
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The Wizard
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 11:18 |
maidenrulez wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
not proto-prog as the who has not inspired any progressive bands...anyways the who got some albums that is progressive but the rest is standard rock |
Any band that released a concept album or made a song longer than 10 minutes was inspired by The Who. How many prog bands have made concept albums or songs longer than 10 minutes? Exactly. The Who in a influenced the genre itself, meaning every prog band. It may sound radical, but you in a way have to admit its true.
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oh please the who was not the first to release something above 10 minutes nor was they the first to release a concept album...i would only belivied that the who had an influence on some bands if they said that the who was influencal to their music becoming prog...the only ones that i have seen that have been influenced by the who have been rock bands and punk bands 
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Name one rock group before The Who that made a 10 minute long suite. I challenge you. If you can I will be suprised. Sure, there were other genres that made long songs, but a rock band? As far as concept albums, the first concept album was Pet Sounds (The Beach Boys). What the Who did was bring the concept albums to new levels with storytelling and form. Before The Who concept albums just albums with ideas like linking songs (Pet Sounds) and posing as a fake band (Seargent Peppers). The Who changed this.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 14 2005 at 07:09 |
The Wizard wrote:
maidenrulez wrote:
not proto-prog as the who has not inspired any progressive bands...anyways the who got some albums that is progressive but the rest is standard rock |
Any band that released a concept album or made a song longer than 10 minutes was inspired by The Who. How many prog bands have made concept albums or songs longer than 10 minutes? Exactly. The Who in a influenced the genre itself, meaning every prog band. It may sound radical, but you in a way have to admit its true.
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oh please the who was not the first to release something above 10 minutes nor was they the first to release a concept album...i would only belivied that the who had an influence on some bands if they said that the who was influencal to their music becoming prog...the only ones that i have seen that have been influenced by the who have been rock bands and punk bands 
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The Wizard
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 22:52 |
maidenrulez wrote:
not proto-prog as the who has not inspired any progressive bands...anyways the who got some albums that is progressive but the rest is standard rock |
Any band that released a concept album or made a song longer than 10 minutes was inspired by The Who. How many prog bands have made concept albums or songs longer than 10 minutes? Exactly. The Who in a influenced the genre itself, meaning every prog band. It may sound radical, but you in a way have to admit its true.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: October 13 2005 at 10:24 |
not proto-prog as the who has not inspired any progressive bands...anyways the who got some albums that is progressive but the rest is standard rock
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Pr@gmatic
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 17:37 |
SirPsycho388 wrote:
You get my vote... definately "proto-prog" as the archives calls it |
Same thing here.
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The Wizard
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 09:07 |
Eetu Pellonpää wrote:
They could be in prog related or proto-prog.
But I think these proto-prog/prog related artists should not have an open feature to add albums. First the admis / collaboratots should get a consensus, that which albums of them are prog related, add those and block the others. This would keep the site more on focus, and the non-prog items of those bands wouldn't take the resources of the site upkeepers.
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I agree with you on that. The Who's first album is certainly not progressive. Neither is Live at Leeds (excellent album by the way) or the Who By Numbers (underrated gem). But Tommy, Quadrophenia, Who's Next, and Who Are You are certainly progressive. A Quick One also has the tiltle track, which qualifies that album as progressive.
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The Wizard
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 09:03 |
horza wrote:
if i went into my local record store in the 60s 70s 80 90s or whever THE WHO WOULD NOT BE IN THE PROGRESSIVE SECTION THATS WHY - they are ROCK as in R-O-C-K  |
Shouldn't we classify a band by its music, not where it is in a store? They made progressive music. Just face it. They may not be classifyed as a progressive band, but they could be. There records are popular and they wouldn't sell as well if they were in the progressive section. Seriously, you need to be more liberal in what you define as progressive.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 03:51 |
They could be in prog related or proto-prog.
But I think these proto-prog/prog related artists should not have an open feature to add albums. First the admis / collaboratots should get a consensus, that which albums of them are prog related, add those and block the others. This would keep the site more on focus, and the non-prog items of those bands wouldn't take the resources of the site upkeepers.
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SirPsycho388
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 02:47 |
You get my vote... definately "proto-prog" as the archives calls it
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Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 01:28 |
progressive, yes.
prog rock? perhaps. but not definitely.
quadrophenia is definitely prog, tho.
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acheron
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Posted: October 02 2005 at 00:47 |
Zeppelin is far better than The Who... in every way
but The Who is pretty progressive
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 23:24 |
They would be categorized under Prog Related if they even get on here.
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transend
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:49 |
Hard to say....'Quadrophenia' is without doubt a masterpiece concept album, so THAT album alone should be in here.
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Hemispheres
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:46 |
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horza
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:13 |
You people
i ain't "You people" i am ME
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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horza
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:12 |
if i went into my local record store in the 60s 70s 80 90s or whever THE WHO WOULD NOT BE IN THE PROGRESSIVE SECTION THATS WHY - they are ROCK as in R-O-C-K
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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peter townsend
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:08 |
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horza
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 21:01 |
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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peter townsend
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Posted: October 01 2005 at 20:59 |
WE MUST ADD THE WHO TO THE PROG ARCHIVES!!!!!!!!!!
if it weren't for them prog wouldn't exist.
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