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    Posted: September 29 2005 at 10:54
Yeah, SGM belongs more to Avant-Prog than to Prog metal... i'm glad they're now on the RIO/Avant list...
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 Thanks! Last time I checked Fantomas and SGM were still in Prog Metal.

 
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Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Fantomas, Mr. Bungle, SGM ... they all belong in RIO/Avant-Prog. Mr. Bungle are already there, so what's the deal?

They are all in RIO, SGM as well.

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Fantomas, Mr. Bungle, SGM ... they all belong in RIO/Avant-Prog. Mr. Bungle are already there, so what's the deal?
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I think they're grouped as metal because there's such a stigma against metal sounds in other styles - if a metal band uses jazz sounds that's fine and still metal, but if a jazz band uses metal sounds a lot of jazz fans wouldn't give it a chance. That's not terribly clear, is it?
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oh, for playing FLAC files:
 
Winamp, you need a file in_flac.dll,
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Windows Media Player and iTunes i have no idea but there are ways.
 
To decode to wav to burn to a CD on PC I'd use a program called FLAC Frontend (http://members.home.nl/w.speek/download/FLAC_frontend.zip) as well as the FLAC codec (http://cyberial.com/flacinstaller.asp)


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IMO they're not at all a metal band. Perhaps they're more metal in live situations ... but Of Natural History is not a prog metal album.

(that might explain why some people like it although they generally don't like metal).

They're Avant-Prog or even RIO ... on their hompage they say that their motto is "Rock against Rock".
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What's that I hear? Two free live recordings? Seems that way:
 
 
 
NB I haven't listened to either so I'm not speaking for either the musical or audio quality!
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Wow, this album has a nearly perfect overall rating.
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I downloaded Of Natural History a little while back, and was pretty impressed.  It's weird, of course, but really creative and unqiue.
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Saw them last night and they are pretty comical also. Definetly some of the most talented or at least innovative group of guys + a gal i've seen. 
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Well... now that you mention it... no, I still don't see many similarities between SGM's vocalist and Max Cavalera or Derrick Green (I think that's his name). And there is nothing wrong with Sep if you discount everything they released after "Chaos AD".
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Its a little harder to get into, the first one, but I find it better.

You should all check out Idiot Flesh if you like SGM. Members of Idiot Flesh formed SGM after they broke up.
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I tried their first record as well.Really awful stuff, not to be compared with their second recording!Confused
Originally posted by hugo123 hugo123 wrote:

Yep, very interesting group, mixing everything from RIO to death metal, worth checking out for anyone wanting something different. Of Natural History is a great place to start, though I prefer Grand opening and Closing.
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"Of Natural HIstory" is probably the best album I've heard in a very long time. Buy it...
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I'm knowing just few records of the artists mentioned here, mainly due to the fact that they are not my favs (SGM isn't neither,but they are interesting,that's different). Tom Waits I can't follow that much this idea, he's got strange vocals that's for sure, but I use to associate him with some strange songwriter music style, he's got nothing to do with metal, as far I know, but SGM has a quite high input of metal, if you ask me. The Avantgarde influences might come from the other bands ( Einsturzende Neubauten, the Residents). Mr. Bungle might be a reference for both Metal and Avantgarde, but I can't hear that much similarity, because I find most of their stuff rather boring! One question: Could this be another case of a desperate search for references within the more prog-ish and avantgarde genre for justification of liking a band. I'd still insist that the main influences of SGM come from Sepultura and Bjork (although both of them are not included on this site doesn't mean that they're not showing some progressive tendency!)Wink
Originally posted by Empathy Empathy wrote:

Yeah, I'm not following that reference either. I find they have more in common with Einsturzende Neubauten, the Residents, Mr. Bungle, and Tom Waits. (I definitely hear Waits in some of the vocals)


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I second the recommendations for Of Natural History, a pretty phenomenal album although it kind of peters out for the second half. And the recommendation to see them live - they are pretty jaw-dropping, and it's fun to see all the bizarre homemade instruments they use. Luckily for us they tour incessantly.

The debut, Grand Opening and Closing, is pretty good too, with some more straightforwardly metal parts. I don't really recommend the live recording, unfortunately... a little too cut-and-paste postmodernist for me.
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You've got to admit that the male vocals remind a lot to this band!And what's wrong with Sepultura, apart  of that they aren't my fav neither. What I wanted to say with this, is that someone liking them could as well try SGM one!

Originally posted by hdfisch hdfisch wrote:

They're great, at least something quite innovative, although I can't listen to them at any moment.Quite demanding stuff (well I suggested them to the Archives since I think They should be there!). But anyone who likes Sepultura and doesn't mind some feamles voices as Björk and has a open mind should check it out, I think!Wink

Sepultura?!?! What the hell do SGM have to do with Sepultura?!?

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Points: 1014 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2005 at 17:35
I downloaded the song here from this archives and I found it to be very interesting. I will definitely check out their albums.
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SGM are pretty interesting... one of the only bands in the prog metal genre that can hold my attention!
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