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    Posted: May 23 2005 at 10:47
maybe there are some post rock bands missing from prog archives.

Explosions in the Sky
A Silver Mount Zion
65 Days of Static

Are these bands prog? Should they be included with other post rock bands like Sigur Ros and Godspeed You Black Emperor? I have noticed that the experimental/post rock section is quite empty and i am not sure whether The Mars Volta and Radiohead fit in there at all. They both belong under psych/space or art rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 11:03
Really like Explosions in the Sky.  Haven't heard the other 2.  I agree though, if bands like Sigur Ros and Godspeed You Black Emperor! are included, Explosions in the Sky are quite similar and at least as good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 11:10

Why the hell would you sent rock through the post

Mt Zion is a GYBE! offshoot and you forgot Do Say May Think. Fly Pan Am is also GYBE!-related. Yes they should be here! Is anyone to review them though.

I will check out Explosion in The Sky

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 11:30
Post rock is the modern name for prog rock. If you
call yourself a prog rock band, no one will take you
seriously, except for aficionados, of course.

Call yourself post rock, and all of a sudden you're
cool and people play your CD at hipster parties.

Sad, really.

What's my point here? Dunno. I'll have to check out
those three bands at the start of this thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 11:47

Originally posted by Heptade Heptade wrote:

Post rock is the modern name for prog rock. If you
call yourself a prog rock band, no one will take you
seriously, except for aficionados, of course.

Call yourself post rock, and all of a sudden you're
cool and people play your CD at hipster parties.

Sad, really.

What's my point here? Dunno. I'll have to check out
those three bands at the start of this thread.

Ha ha prog is sooooooo uncool its sad. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 12:03
65 Days of Static are british i think, they played at a pub in bristol just down the road from my mums work. I think Useful Idiot knows this band, their debut album "Fall of Math" is ok. Not the best in the genre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 13:43
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 00:47
Originally posted by Heptade Heptade wrote:

Post rock is the modern name for prog rock. If you
call yourself a prog rock band, no one will take you
seriously, except for aficionados, of course.

Call yourself post rock, and all of a sudden you're
cool and people play your CD at hipster parties.

Sad, really.

What's my point here? Dunno. I'll have to check out
those three bands at the start of this thread.


Uh no that's wrong. Have you ever heard post rock?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 03:27
For a good link about post-rock, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-rock
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 08:42
I didn't know that Heptade. Modern Prog is known as Post Rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 09:38
Originally posted by Heptade Heptade wrote:

Post rock is the modern name for prog rock.


I disagree. These bands aren't like traditional (symphonic?) prog rock. They're much more ambient. Most don't even have lyrics, or if they do - like Godspeed You! Black Emperor - they're in the form of samples rather than singing.

There are more traditional prog bands around - and in fact, I read an article in the Guardian not so long ago that was arguing that prog's becoming more popular - such as Transatlantic, Spock's Beard, The Flower Kings etc.

Post rock isn't the new prog, it's just a new subgenre of it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 10:25
Oh dear, opened myself up there, didn't I?

I meant if you consider prog rock as the very vague umbrella term under
which all the sub genres new and old, ie post rock, symphonic, RIO, neo
prog, etc, exist, a young band has been much better off not mentioning
that they may consider themselves prog in any way, if they want to get to
MTV...post rock is much more cool.

However, the success of Mars Volta etc, in being proudly progressive may
be changing that, and I couldn't be more happy.

And yes, I've heard plenty of everything. Many of the "post rock" bands, ie
Godspeed, Mogwai, are among my favourites.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 12:38
Definitely should be added. Explosions in The Sky is an excellent band. From Monument To Masses is another great post-rock band, check out the album The Impossible Leap in One Hundred Simple Steps

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 17:22
I almost want to agree with those who say that post rock is prog. They have some big differences, but the approach to the music is practically the same. If i'm not mistaken, Mogwai once declared itself "prog without capes". In some way, I admire that serious yet adventurous approach to the music without the trolls and fairies and such.

Tortoise is another big post rock name.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 17:45
Well, I just figured since there's some post rock on
this prog rock site, and people are here to talk about
prog, then, evidence would suggest, post rock is
prog? Really, I don't care, they could call it whatever
they please, I'll like what tickles my fancy!

But I still hold to the well-known point that "prog" is
seen as a stigma in some circles, a fact we all try to
overcome, when many of today's coolest bands are
in fact quite progressive, but no one realizes it. There
is a new terminology, which is fine with me- I'll listen
to anything interesting. Call it what you like!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2005 at 18:29

Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

maybe there are some post rock bands missing from prog archives. QUOTE]

Are you kidding? The post rock bands listed here probably makes for about 3% of the genre,quite possibly less.

You should definitely add these:

Trans Am

Slint

Labradford

Tortoise

Add N to (x)

Bark Psychosis

Gastr Del Sol

[QUOTE=Andhi] I disagree. These bands aren't like traditional (symphonic?) prog rock. They're much more ambient. Most don't even have lyrics, or if they do - like Godspeed You! Black Emperor - they're in the form of samples rather than singing.

It doesn't matter if it's not exactly like classic prog. It's still prog. Most don't have lyrics? There is alot of singing in post-rock. Check out Slint for example, most of their songs have lyrics, but not so much that it ruins the track(unlike Genesis for example).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 13:17

If Mars Volta is accepted as a post-rock band, then a lot of bands would also get in I guess, like Arcade Fire.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:05
Yeah, I don't get classifying Radiohead and TMV as post-rock either.  In my opinion they'd fit under art-rock and space rock respectively.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2005 at 15:21

Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

Yeah, I don't get classifying Radiohead and TMV as post-rock either.  In my opinion they'd fit under art-rock and space rock respectively.

Funny you should mention TMV as art-rock; they were featured in Filter magazine under a series of articles specifically on art rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 11:19
Originally posted by Borealis Borealis wrote:

If Mars Volta is accepted as a post-rock band, then a lot of bands would also get in I guess, like Arcade Fire.

Definitely not. The Arcade Fire arent even close to TMV Good band, but not prog.



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