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Ofur 
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:06 |
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I suspect Frank Zappa had difficulties taking himself seriously, most of his music is so full of silly humor that I get the feeling he simply couldn't take himself seriously. I'm not saying he was a poor musician or anything, but it seems he was rarely able to be totally serious about it.
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:09 |
another negative thread Ofur?
His music is awesome, thus I take him seriously.
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horza
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:09 |
 are you on medication ??
Zappa had a sense of humour
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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con safo
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:10 |
 Ofur wrote:
I suspect Frank Zappa had difficulties taking himself
seriously, most of his music is so full of silly humor that I get the
feeling he simply couldn't take himself seriously. I'm not saying he
was a poor musician or anything, but it seems he was rarely able to be
totally serious about it. |
When did you come to this stunning conclusion?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:10 |
HOW COME NO ONE'S REALISED THIS BEFORE?!
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:10 |
Is there any problem with Zappa not being totally serious?
The music usually was very well thought out and very creatively done, it's just the lyrics and words that were silly.
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Ofur
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:14 |
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Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:16 |
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Wronnnnnnnnnnnnng.
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horza
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:17 |
i'm telling the central scrutinizer !! 
Edited by horza
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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con safo
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:17 |
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Thats an awfully stupid thing to say. I'm sure he was VERY capable of
doing serious music but it just wouldnt be him. Anyways if you want
zappa without the humour look into some of his more instrumental
albums.. Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats
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Ofur
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:19 |
con safo wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Thats an awfully stupid thing to say. I'm sure he was VERY capable of doing serious music but it just wouldnt be him. Anyways if you want zappa without the humour look into some of his more instrumental albums.. Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats
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I don't want Zappa without the humor.
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con safo
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:20 |
Ofur wrote:
con safo wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Thats
an awfully stupid thing to say. I'm sure he was VERY capable of doing
serious music but it just wouldnt be him. Anyways if you want zappa
without the humour look into some of his more instrumental albums..
Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats
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I don't want Zappa without the humor. |
I'm confused.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:20 |
Ofur wrote:
con safo wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Thats
an awfully stupid thing to say. I'm sure he was VERY capable of doing
serious music but it just wouldnt be him. Anyways if you want zappa
without the humour look into some of his more instrumental albums..
Grand Wazoo, Hot Rats
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I don't want Zappa without the humor. |
That doesn't mean to say Zappa never wrote non-humourous music, does it? Your arguments are as garbled as ever, Ofur.
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:21 |
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Yellow Shark?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:22 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Yellow Shark? |
I was thinking of that very same album. Also, 90% of Hot Rats, Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka.
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con safo
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:23 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Yellow Shark? |
Mom & Dad?
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:30 |
Trouserpress wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Yellow Shark?
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I was thinking of that very same album. Also, 90% of Hot Rats, Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka.
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Not to mention Jazz from Hell
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:31 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Trouserpress wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Ofur wrote:
Right, anyway I think he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Yellow Shark?
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I was thinking of that very same album. Also, 90% of Hot Rats, Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka.
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Not to mention Jazz from Hell |
Indeed.
...That's why I didn't mention it!
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Ofur
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:34 |
He wasn't totally incapable of making serious music, but I think he had to force himself to be serious, I'm sure it didn't come quite naturally. Let's look at his catalogue. How many albums out of the 60 or something albums he made aren't full of typical Zappa silliness? Not that many.
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con safo
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Posted: September 22 2005 at 20:36 |
Ofur wrote:
he wasn't capable of making music that was totally serious. |
Ofur wrote:
He wasn't totally incapable of making serious music |
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