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Andrea Cortese
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Topic: Ys - Il Balletto Di Bronzo... Posted: September 17 2005 at 18:41 |
...and death's obsession!
(death is the main character in this GREAT concept album).
What do you think about Ys?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 18:45 |
Is it?! WOW!!!  That's so utterly
wonderful to learn. This is one of my alltime favourite Italian prog
albums but being an uneducated Englander I've never understood the
lyrics one jot. I always felt that there was a very haunting and
deathly atmosphere to it though. Towards the end there are some strange
processed vocals that sound EXACTLY how I'd imagine ghosts to sounds.
Could you give me any more details on what the album is about, Andrea?
It might enhance this masterpiece even further for me!
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horza
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 18:47 |
Ys? Is there a letter missing here? Another band for me to research perhaps
Edited by horza
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 18:49 |
Nope, no missing letter! And if you like your prog dark, weird,
dramatic and full of top notch guitar and keyboard playing then you
NEED this album.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:00 |
Ys is the album's title!
The lyrics are about a young man who had to go...beyond the mountains...then he found a man lying on the ground...and his body was covered by ivy...black was his blood now...and his eyes were pierced by thorns...all the pain he had suffered then immidiately is felt by the young man.........
....and darkness came...
there are also scenes by an old dead man with cross-joint harms...
It would be a better thing if I translate all the lyrics for the people here of progarchives...
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maani
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:01 |
horza:
The band is "Il Balletto di Bronzo"; the album is "Ys." And it is also one of my favorite Italian prog albums, along with Intorno by Alusa Fallax, Zarathustra by Museo Rosenbach, and Io Sono Nato Libero by Banco del Mutuo Soccorso.
Peace.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:02 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
Ys is the album's title!
The lyrics are about a young man who had to go...beyond the
mountains...then he found a man lying on the ground...and his
body was covered by ivy...black was his blood now...and his
eyes were pierced by thorns...all the pain he had
suffered then immidiately is felt by the young
man.........
....and darkness came...
there are also scenes by an old dead man with cross-joint harms...
It would be a better thing if I translate all the lyrics for the people here of progarchives... |
 You'd seriously do that? It would be a
truly wonderful gift if you could. It sounds like a wonderful story,
every bit as artistic, poetic and captivating as the music.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:15 |
I'll do soon!
...Tomorrow!
...hope my English will be understandable!
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horza
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 19:22 |
maani wrote:
horza:
The band is "Il Balletto di Bronzo"; the album is "Ys." And it is also one of my favorite Italian prog albums, along with Intorno by Alusa Fallax, Zarathustra by Museo Rosenbach, and Io Sono Nato Libero by Banco del Mutuo Soccorso.
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ok cheers.
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Originally posted by darkshade:
Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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BigHairyMonster
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 21:13 |
An excellent album, and it was my first exploration into Italian prog.
I don't know how the following relates to the lyrics, but for what it's worth...
From Wikkipedia:
YS is a mythical city built in the Douarnenez Bay in Brittany by Gradlon, King of Cornouaille for his daughter Dahut.
According to the legend, the city was built below sea level, protected
by a dam from being engulfed. The only keys to the gate of the damn
were held by Gradlon, but Satan made Dahut steal them and give them to
him. He opened the gate and YS was flooded. In some
versions of the story, Satan was sent by God to punish the city whose
inhabitants were becoming decadent. Other versions of the story
tell that Dahut stole the keys either at her lover's request or in
order to open the gate and let her lover in.
The only survivors were King Gradlon, who was advised to abandon his
daughter by Saint Guenole. Gradlon then founded Quimper and on
his death, a statue representing him on horseback looking back in the
direction of YS was erected on the Saint Corentin Catherdral and still
stands there.
Bretons said that YS was the most wonderful city in the world, and that
Lutece was renamed Paris after YS was destroyed, because Par-Is in
Breton means "similar to YS".
This deluge legend differs from others because the location of YS is
well defined: the statue of Gradlon looks towards it, most of the
localities mentioned exist, several Roman roads actually lead into the
sea (and are meant to lead to YS), and this myth could in fact depict
the engulfment of a real city during the 5th century.
The history is also sometimes viewed as the victory of Christianity
(Gradlon was converted by Saint Guenole) over Druidism, as Dahut and
most of the inhabitants of YS were worshippers of Celtic gods...
...In Cleade Debussy's first book of Preludes (1910) the evocative Le Cathedrale engloutie recalls the drowned cathedral in the city of YS, with the muffled and watery sonority of its spectral bells.
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Fearless
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 21:54 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
I'll do soon!
...Tomorrow!
...hope my English will be understandable!
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Awesome! I'm always looking for translations of Italian lyrics, but can never find them on the Internet. It will be interesting to see what the concept of Ys is about, the way it was described (by Andrea) sounds like a great story.
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Simkim
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Posted: September 17 2005 at 23:01 |
One more masterpiece from among the amazing Italian scene. It's
considered one of the best albums ever made, and it's for sure a right
opinion. Gianni Leone is just a genius.
Andrea Cortese wrote:
I'll do soon!
...Tomorrow!
...hope my English will be understandable! |
You could translate it into Spanish too
No, I actually understand some Italian and it's not quite different from Spanish.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 04:01 |
INTRODUCTION
The voice told
to the last who
remained in the world
the true reality.
And then ordered
to go to its people
to tell the truth
and the game started.
That voice pressed the chest
with the pain of the things understood
perhaps (it or he ?) was in time to tell
also to the others
perhaps (it or he ?) was in time to tell
also to the others.
What’s the life of a man who has cried
like seeing a clear sky
like staring your eyes into the sun
like catching a hand holded out.
And the voice pressed the chest
with the pain of lived things
he had to go soon, he had
to go soon.
Poetry of a windy day
the last leaf of a dead tree
the first April sunny day
a warm body a hand nearby.
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FIRST MEETING
He went beyond the mounts and beyond again
never turning back to look
long is the journey he has to do
but he has to go yet.
A man is here, with the face downwards
and ivy already embraces his body
black is all his blood
wounds of ripped ears.
The voice forced him to shout
all that was to die inside himself
and all he shouted was brought away by the wind
and he would never hear something.
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SECOND MEETING
He’ll see, he’ll see
even if he doesn’t be able to hear
what can tell him
a clear sky.
A face of an old man
already next to death
wasn’t faith before
now it’s strong.
The look of a man
who doesn’t fear…
what is he if he miss
a steady voice
he has seen: the night,
the ending day,
women in the dark
who were ready to betray,
hands holded out,
absent faces,
good people die,
mighty people rejoice.
But he didn’t remain thinking
he had something to search for
and night not came, nor the day
and the horizon remained over there.
He did not surrender
he did never surrender
he didn’t asked himself:
man, where’re you going?
What he saw was another man
with his arms cross-bended
and he did not hear his voice…
he came near him and spoke to him.
But in those eyes with no light
prickly thorns were infixed
then he felt those wounds as his own
and then light went away.
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THIRD MEETING AND EPILOGUE
With spreaded arms
for the road in the darkness he searched
with the fingers a shape (something) he felt.
All he could feel
was
death’s coldness
between his hands,
his true word
came up from his chest another time.
But his mouth
tired and motionless remained
that shout crushed him,
ripped him inside
and the darkness around
came inside him
and light was never more.
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Hope my english translation is good
Edited by Andrea Cortese
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Dragon Phoenix
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 04:39 |
Awesome, thanks. Love this album.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 07:35 |
I think there's something in the lyrics refering to suicide, being death the arrival of the journey of the main character.
Lyirics' sense is obscure,
Sinister (but awesome) music from Il Balletto Di Bronzo
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 07:44 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
INTRODUCTION
The voice told
to the last who
remained in the world
the true reality.
And then ordered
to go to its people
to tell the truth
and the game started.
That voice pressed the chest
with the pain of the things understood
perhaps (it or he ?) was in time to tell
also to the others
perhaps (it or he ?) was in time to tell
also to the others.
What’s the life of a man who has cried
like seeing a clear sky
like staring your eyes into the sun
like catching a hand holded out.
And the voice pressed the chest
with the pain of lived things
he had to go soon, he had
to go soon.
Poetry of a windy day
the last leaf of a dead tree
the first April sunny day
a warm body a hand nearby.
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FIRST MEETING
He went beyond the mounts and beyond again
never turning back to look
long is the journey he has to do
but he has to go yet.
A man is here, with the face downwards
and ivy already embraces his body
black is all his blood
wounds of ripped ears.
The voice forced him to shout
all that was to die inside himself
and all he shouted was brought away by the wind
and he would never hear something.
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SECOND MEETING
He’ll see, he’ll see
even if he doesn’t be able to hear
what can tell him
a clear sky.
A face of an old man
already next to death
wasn’t faith before
now it’s strong.
The look of a man
who doesn’t fear…
what is he if he miss
a steady voice
he has seen: the night,
the ending day,
women in the dark
who were ready to betray,
hands holded out,
absent faces,
good people die,
mighty people rejoice.
But he didn’t remain thinking
he had something to search for
and night not came, nor the day
and the horizon remained over there.
He did not surrender
he did never surrender
he didn’t asked himself:
man, where’re you going?
What he saw was another man
with his arms cross-bended
and he did not hear his voice…
he came near him and spoke to him.
But in those eyes with no light
prickly thorns were infixed
then he felt those wounds as his own
and then light went away.
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THIRD MEETING AND EPILOGUE
With spreaded arms
for the road in the darkness he searched
with the fingers a shape (something) he felt.
All he could feel
was
death’s coldness
between his hands,
his true word
came up from his chest another time.
But his mouth
tired and motionless remained
that shout crushed him,
ripped him inside
and the darkness around
came inside him
and light was never more.
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Hope my english translation is good |
My... that's fantastic! Thank you so so much for taking the time to do
that. I really appreciate it, and I'm sure a lot of other people do
too. I'm listening to the album as I write, and I'm doing so with a
renewed passion thanks to this!
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 07:53 |
It's a pleasure to know that italian scenario is so well aprreciated!
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geezer
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 07:59 |
Fan-tas-tic! Thanks, Andrea!
I never realized it's such a beautiful (and dark) concept!
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Simkim
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 09:21 |
Andrea Cortese wrote:
It's a pleasure to know that italian scenario is so well aprreciated!
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Of course it is! Italian scene is gonna ruin me
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Fearless
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Posted: September 18 2005 at 11:45 |
Thanks a lot Andrea. And congratulations on becoming a collaborator.
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