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    Posted: June 10 2004 at 09:50

I'm looking for second opinions:

What is the most covered tune, originally played by Soft Machine?

What is the most covered tune, originally played by King Crimson?

 

As both bands have so many live albums released nowadays, originally recorded many years ago (with live versions of studio recordings), that the cover has to be by bands not called respectively Soft Machine or King Crimson!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 08:47

Amazingly no takers. While having my own ideas here, I was looking was some concensus from the experts.

So let's cover Machine first. Unsurprisingly the covers of their tunes are by friends of the band - and often with one or two players from Machine  present. With the large number of Soft Machine live albums out now, there are many band own versions of their compositions. But I believe from that and other artist's cover Dedicated To You But You Weren't Listening wins - e.g. Caveman Hughscore, Keith Tippett Group (who used the song title for the album title).

Now Crimson. Red is probably the favourite - Niacin, Glueleg, Wood, Either Orchestra immediately come to mind. However, Court and 21st Century Schizoid Man may sneak in: (a bit of a cheat to include) 21st Century Schizoid Band, Greg Lake/Gary Moore Band, Steve Hackett. Then question comes up - what have I missed?

Oddest  cover??  Zappa doing Yes?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 09:04

 

A version of Soft Machine's 'Backwards' was included as part of 'A Hunting We Shall Go', Caravan's amazing suite that closes their 'For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night' album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 12:40
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Amazingly no takers. While having my own ideas here, I was looking was some concensus from the experts.

So let's cover Machine first. Unsurprisingly the covers of their tunes are by friends of the band - and often with one or two players from Machine  present. With the large number of Soft Machine live albums out now, there are many band own versions of their compositions. But I believe from that and other artist's cover Dedicated To You But You Weren't Listening wins - e.g. Caveman Hughscore, Keith Tippett Group (who used the song title for the album title).

Now Crimson. Red is probably the favourite - Niacin, Glueleg, Wood, Either Orchestra immediately come to mind. However, Court and 21st Century Schizoid Man may sneak in: (a bit of a cheat to include) 21st Century Schizoid Band, Greg Lake/Gary Moore Band, Steve Hackett. Then question comes up - what have I missed?

Oddest  cover??  Zappa doing Yes?

You mean Zappa really did that once? Or were you kidding?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 13:10

Dick,

If I recall correctly, one of the PFM live albums has a cover of 21st Century Schizoid Man. Do live albums count?

Have you heard Lana Lane's cover of In The Court Of The Crimson King? She is the (self-styled?) queen of Prog Rock. Not my cup of tea, I'm afraid. Now I don't want to sound offensive, as she has a very nice voice which reminds me a little of Karen Carpenter. Whilst I like her voice, I don't feel it's suited to some of the rock songs she sings. I'll leave it at that.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 13:13

 

Remember Anekdoten's live rendition of KC's own rendition of Mars (The Devil's Triangle), performed in one of teh ProgFests.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 13:48
Originally posted by Fitzcarraldo Fitzcarraldo wrote:

Dick,

If I recall correctly, one of the PFM live albums has a cover of 21st Century Schizoid Man. Do live albums count?

 

Certainly - remember my personal list is exhausted!

Have you heard Lana Lane's cover of In The Court Of The Crimson King? She is the (self-styled?) queen of Prog Rock.

Lana Lane? When I had the legendary Trev Lever 0f the Ideal Gnomes on the show, I played one of her tracks - the only track ever we faded out early because it was so bad LOL - that bit of the show can be heard in our archives for few more weeks.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 13:50
Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

 

Remember Anekdoten's live rendition of KC's own rendition of Mars (The Devil's Triangle), performed in one of the ProgFests.

Regards. 

I have that progfest recording!!!

Have you heard the demo cassette Anekdoten pushed around record companies , rock magazines etc, in 92/93 - three Krimson covers on that - although I can't really included these as the source is really a bootleg recording.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 13:54

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

You mean Zappa really did that once? Or were you kidding?

 

No - amazingly Owner of a Lonely Heart is out there somewhere!! I think FZ Meets the Mothers Of Prevention - the internet isn't being that helpful at the moment.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 14:04

Dick Heath said: "Certainly - remember my personal list is exhausted!"

Ok, then it was PFM's: '10 Anni Live, 1971 - 1981' [CD - RTI Music, RTI 0217-2 (Italy, 96) CD - King Records KICP 2829 (Japan, 96)]

If you look here: http://www.gaudela.net/pfm/index2.html you'll see that PFM did covers of a few others too.

By the way, http://www.gaudela.net/pfm/index.html is one of the best crafted Web sites I have come across. I also like the Gryphon Web site that he has created (see under Related Links on the above-mentioned site).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 14:07

Dick Heath said: "...I played one of her tracks - the only track ever we faded out early because it was so bad...".

You should hear her singing Led Zep's Kashmir then.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 14:38
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

You mean Zappa really did that once? Or were you kidding?

 

No - amazingly Owner of a Lonely Heart is out there somewhere!! I think FZ Meets the Mothers Of Prevention - the internet isn't being that helpful at the moment.

FZ Meets the Mothers Of Prevention

  1. Porn Wars (12:04)
  2. We're Turning Again (4:55)
  3. Alien Orifice (4:12)
  4. Aerobics In Bondage (3:16)
  5. I Don't Even Care (3:47)
  6. Little Beige Sambo (3:02)
  7. What's New In Baltimore? (5:20)
  8. One Man, One Vote (2:35)
  9. H.R. 2911 (3:35)
  10. Yo Cats (3:33)

NOPE, not here...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2004 at 14:40

I've found it!

from http://www.progreviews.com/reviews/display.php?rev=yes-90125

Even the oft-damned "Owner of a Lonely Heart" isn't bad (come on, that's a catchy bass line - hell, if Zappa liked it enough to incorporate it into "Bamboozled By Love", who are we to argue? ;-)

The song is on "Tinsel Town Rebellion"



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2004 at 13:44

Thank Joren.

 

Zappa also bemused me by playing a jokey version of Whipping Post  (aka Whipping Floss)  on You Can't Do That on Stage Anymore Vol.2 Helsinski Tapes and then a serious version with son Dweezil taking lead on Them Or Us .

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2004 at 22:17

 

HI, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA.

One fine Spetember night of 1997, in Lima, right before my eyes (well, I was standing on the 15th row), ELP made a cover of 21st Century Schizoid Man. Actually they performed the fist two verses, until they segued it into America.

They hadn't done that since their very first tour!! I felt so frantic about it that I ended up with my voice all gone - I had been singing along and humming (and cheering Emerson's funny pyrotechnics) for more than 100 minutes, and since Schizoid Man is so demanding vocally, well...

But Lake did an Epitaph cover as a coda to Battlefield. Later on, on his first solo tour during 1981, Lake formed a half-hard rock half-AOR band (Gary Moore on lead guitar), which covered Schizoid Man and Crimson King. It's been immortalized on a King Biscuit Flower Hour recording.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2004 at 22:19

 

HI, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA, again.

One of Spanish band Dificil Equilibrio's recordings consists of a brief collection of covers of 73-75 KC - their major influence, actually. I think that they started a a KC cover band, pretty much like Anekdoten.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2004 at 04:19
Are you serious ??????????????????????????

Lemmy out of here !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2004 at 04:36
King Crimson : Must be SOME WHERE OVER THE RAINBOW, WILL GET US ON MTV !!!!!!!!! ???????????????? Duh !!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2004 at 04:39
It´s not MTV´s Fault .......................

The stupidity of the human race is beyond .....................CRAP !!!!!!!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2004 at 13:31
Barbara Streisand's cover of Moon in June isn't bad at all, off of her 'Babs sings the best of Canterbury' disc.....
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