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    Posted: September 10 2005 at 08:43
Where do people stand on the music download issue,especially file sharing? I do not see the problem in sharing my music collection with others and being able to sample music from artists I may not have had the cash or inclination in the past to listen to. I know that you may say that bands may lose out on revenue but because I have been able to hear Opeth and download some songs I am now going to see them live,to buy a t shirt maybe,and I'm encouraging friends to listen to them too.Everyone wins don't you think?

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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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My feelings exactly. Right now I'm a starving student so I really can't afford to dish out on CDs very often. However, when I'm earning money... Wow. Some music labels are gonna get very rich off of me.
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Most of my prog is on my computer, but sadly, I don't have a portable MP3 player.  it's a bit upsetting.
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^ you can buy 128MB mobile players for the price of two CDs ...

 
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I do download music, and if I like it enough, I'll buy the album. If not, I'll delete the files and not listen to them anymore. I feel downloading is okay in order to make "educated purchases."
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Thanks I'm glad I'm not alone on this.Why should'nt you and I and others be able to browse and say "Hmm I fancy hearing that song". As long as we not burning copies for sale or profit there is no harm surely??
Originally posted by darkshade:

Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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Originally posted by horza horza wrote:

Thanks I'm glad I'm not alone on this.Why should'nt you and I and others be able to browse and say "Hmm I fancy hearing that song". As long as we not burning copies for sale or profit there is no harm surely??


Can't you see that it's bad for RIAA artists who make a career on writing one catchy song and sticking it in an album full of filler?  What will happen to their livelihood? 




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Record companies have got their knickers in a twist over peer-to-peer, just like they got pathetically het up about the sale of blank tape cassettes in the 1970s.

That said, I generally don't "pirate" new stuff, just older stuff (especially deletions) or total bootleg stuff that's impossible to get any place else. My fav P2P is WinMX, btw.
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I like to have original cds, both for the recording quality AND the
cover art, liner notes etc. , so every time I download mp3s of a band
I didn't know and happen to like I just can't be satisfied with that. I
need the CD! However, I agree that the price of cds is far too high
(btw, I have a feeling it's higher in Italy than in the US) and record
companies should just blame themselves for fueling "illegal" sharing
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Originally posted by sonic_assassin sonic_assassin wrote:


My fav P2P is WinMX, btw.


Try Soulseek. It's about 10000% better than Win MX.
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Quote Try Soulseek. It's about 10000% better than Win MX.

Trying it

Yeah, the search results look impressive, and I'm running a DL already, only 10 mins after reading your post, so cheers for that!
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As a Mac user I have Limewire. Not too bad
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i  agree soulseek is awesome, so is DC++, i think we shouold have a download section on the website, where we can post yousendit links or megaupload links and put the cds in rar files, then we can share them with all of our friends on the site.
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and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.
dead things don't talk too well, they've got a shaky sense of diction.
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www.last.fm saves a lot of downloading trouble, it's particularly good for finding similar artists.

Why use illegal p2p filesharing when you can listen to the music for free?
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sometimes downloading is the only way to get any recordings of rare band, impossible to obtain even through specialized stores.

I love original CDs too.
yet you still have time!
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Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.

if its that far off, then i doubt the 10-15 bucks would not have saved them.
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Originally posted by jiggajake jiggajake wrote:

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.

if its that far off, then i doubt the 10-15 bucks would not have saved them.

10 bucks x 1000 downloads or file shares = $10,000.00, thats not chump change kids.
dead things don't talk too well, they've got a shaky sense of diction.
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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 10 2005 at 10:23
Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

Originally posted by jiggajake jiggajake wrote:

Originally posted by gabbel ratchett gabbel ratchett wrote:

and when your favorite indie bands quit making new albums because they can't recover their production costs I'll bet you'll wonder why.

if its that far off, then i doubt the 10-15 bucks would not have saved them.

10 bucks x 1000 downloads or file shares = $10,000.00, thats not chump change kids.



If a band got ten bucks (as opposed to ten cents) for every album of theirs I bought, I'd be a lot more willing to blind-buy albums that I'm not sure about.
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