Zappa’s legacy

Yeah, same case with Hawkwind

Retrovertigo wrote: I don't see the point of the list...I mean, it acts as like a democracy averaging votes, but if we took all of the forum members here and had them review every album on the site, then yeah maybe we could have a bonafide top list with that criteria.  Small facts like people not being able to get a hold of some albums due to rarity or anything like that, make albums sadly overlooked.  Even a bonafide man-made Greatest 100 Prog Albums list would end up opinionated and debatable forever.

+10 points for Gilliam avatar.

The Top 100 has vastly improved since it was set up. "Train of Thought" was at number 3 for a period (I'm saying this as a moderate DT fan) and after just looking i can confirm its departure from the Top 100. Saying that, it's not perfect by quite a way...

As for Zappa, he has tons of albums that could make it sensibly into a Top 100. From "Hot Rats" to "Roxy and Elsewhere", from "The Grand Wazoo" to "Absolutely Free", from "Zappa in New York" to "One Size Fits All". I could go on!

 

Thank you Trouserpress, I certainly agree with your above observations. I also assume that we both mean to be constructive here, but it takes a bit of time to establish as where one is coming from. Recently, I had (still having) encounters with some disappointing attitudes in the Forum pages that kinda saddens me and sometimes even testing my standards in civility. Having said that, I would welcome some changes to the site, for it's rapidly loosing it's intended appeal? 

Yeah, Trouserpress, I had the feeling of how the Top100 were arrived at, but thanks for your input. I do take some offence at the reference of "whingeing threads", though. Considering that many of whom who shape the public profile of this site were still in nappies when FZ passed away, we might just delete much of the material for few of the younger ones would have the interest, or time to research the entire site? A bit of guidance in the form of a reminder is whingeing? I think not.

My girlfriend's 17 year old younger brother said to me once. - "You know, I do like you very much, but I love you for having introduced me to FZ." Today that kid is a brilliant guitar player...   

Some attitudes I've recently encountered here by contributors really suck! There is some rot setting in, seriously dampening my original excitement and positive intent to contribute in a constructive manner to the site. I do hope that I am wrong here. 

 

Poxx wrote: Want Zappa in the top 100? Pick an album and submit a bunch of reviews with different names and email adresses. Use varied language and apply a comfortable amount of grammatical and spelling errors - make it look good. That's it! You will have your Zappa album placed in the top 10 in no time.

Anyway Damen - so just 'cause you don't care for Zappa, he doesn't deserve to be acknowledged? Is that what you mean, 'cause that's how it comes across.

Want Zappa in the top 100? Pick an album and submit a bunch of reviews with different names and email adresses. Use varied language and apply a comfortable amount of grammatical and spelling errors - make it look good.

That's it! You will have your Zappa album placed in the top 10 in no time.

Are you aware of how that accursed list works, I wonder? It's based on the ratings people give albums. I don't know the exact algorithm but I think it still takes into account the number of ratings. As people have pointed out, Zappa made so many albums that everyone has a different favourite. That way the reviews and ratings are far more spread over his massive discography and no one album has enough concentrated high ratings to make it onto the list.

I say abolish the whole thing. It's a useless list anyway and it's spawned far too many whingeing threads like this one.

Indeed. There are many people here who all seem to have different favourite Zappa albums.

I agree! Where is Zappa???