Story of Scenes from a Memory

G_Bone wrote: Hi, I recently bought Dream Theater's Scenes from a Memory (Metropolis Part 2), incredible album, but I'm not very smart when it comes to comprehending the meaning of a story, poem, etc. so the whole story of this thing kind of went by me 1.) The main thing I don't get was the murder, the way I see it one of two things happened: Julian killed both Edward and Victoria, then placed the letter on them and made up a story about the crime, how Edward had killed Victoria and then himself, thus making Julian "The Witness" that was spoken of earlier. In this case what happened to Julian? The other possibility I see is that Julian killed Victoria and then killed himselfk, and the witness that was spoken of was just that, a witness. In this case what happened to Edward? With the above, I also thought of the possiblity that the old man at the beginning was either Edward or Julian 2.) Apart from the actual murder, am I understanding it correctly that the point is that Nicholas is like a reincarnation of Victoria? (since he speaks so much about the sole carrying on) 3.) Then theres the miracle and the sleeper, what is the significance of these names. I undestand it relates to the original Metropolis (whihc I didn't understand the meaning), I was thinking these were spirits or something, but they are actually just two of the characters involved in teh murder. Is there any significance in "THe Miracle" and "The Sleeper" If someone could explain this to me I'd appreciate it, Thanks

Reffering to numer one...  The 1st option of the murder is correct, me thinks...

I dident quite think bout the old man in the story.. thought of him as some sort of backup character... Nicholas is NOT a reincartanion of Victoria... Nicholas is the Reincarnation of The Miracle, THe Killer......

stripthesoul wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: Which prog concept album story doesn't suck? Think about it, they're ALL cheesy in some way. They don't have to be brilliant, they're just there to inspire the music. The Human Equation for example ... just look at the song titles. The story is just an excuse for making music about emotions. That's not at all true; plenty of concept albums have good stories.  Shadow Gallery's "Tyranny" and "Room V" have a good story about corporate power.  And don't say Pain of Salvation stories are cheesy.  "Be" is more intellectual than many books I've read.

Of course there are some good stories ... but the stories don't have to be on the same level as those of movies or novels.

The murder was committed by Colonel Mustard in the conservatory with the lead pipe.

Either that, or the butler did it.

Ed_The_Dead wrote: G_Bone wrote: Hi, I recently bought Dream Theater's Scenes from a Memory (Metropolis Part 2), incredible album, but I'm not very smart when it comes to comprehending the meaning of a story, poem, etc. so the whole story of this thing kind of went by me 1.) The main thing I don't get was the murder, the way I see it one of two things happened: Julian killed both Edward and Victoria, then placed the letter on them and made up a story about the crime, how Edward had killed Victoria and then himself, thus making Julian "The Witness" that was spoken of earlier. In this case what happened to Julian? The other possibility I see is that Julian killed Victoria and then killed himselfk, and the witness that was spoken of was just that, a witness. In this case what happened to Edward? With the above, I also thought of the possiblity that the old man at the beginning was either Edward or Julian 2.) Apart from the actual murder, am I understanding it correctly that the point is that Nicholas is like a reincarnation of Victoria? (since he speaks so much about the sole carrying on) 3.) Then theres the miracle and the sleeper, what is the significance of these names. I undestand it relates to the original Metropolis (whihc I didn't understand the meaning), I was thinking these were spirits or something, but they are actually just two of the characters involved in teh murder. Is there any significance in "THe Miracle" and "The Sleeper" If someone could explain this to me I'd appreciate it, Thanks Reffering to numer one...  The 1st option of the murder is correct, me thinks... I dident quite think bout the old man in the story.. thought of him as some sort of backup character... Nicholas is NOT a reincartanion of Victoria... Nicholas is the Reincarnation of The Miracle, THe Killer......

Nicholas is most definitely the reincarnation of Victoria!!!

the concept was killed with poor execution. it's not worth trying to follow. just enjoy the music

richeym wrote: for every Dream Theater question you'll ever have: http://www.dtfaq.com/ and how can anyone NOT understand the SFAM concept.... it's not exactly highbrow....

But its quite complicated... And it would've been far easer if English was my mother laungage 

Why must everyone be so ignorant.

Actually Im sorry, maybe someone did clear this all up already, but as soon as i saw the post screaming that nicholas isnt the reincarnation of victoria i freaked out and hit post reply to save everyone form the incorectness.

Nicholas( prestent time) is the reincarnation of Victoria( 1928) Victoria and Julian, or the sleeper(1928) are lovers.Julians brother Edward, or the miracle(1928), is in love with Victoria and is spiteful because julian is a reckless person who drinks and gambles and treats victoria poorly. blah blah blah... what actually happened in the murder was ( this is told in finnally free, the true story of the murder) Edward knew that Julian and Victoria aranged a meeting to start seeing eachother again( after they broke up and victoria had sex iwth edward) . Edward, out of jealousy and anger, went and shot them both.....howerer in beyond this life, we are told the story of the murder form the point of veiw of the newspaper artical about it. The article is all flase because Edward was the one who gave the newspaper the facts. What the newspaper says is that julian and victoria got in a fight, and he killed her, and than, in anger wiht himself, killed himself

and then at the end. The Hypno therepist( present) comes in to Nicholas's home and kills him. THis is beacase he is actually the reincarnation of Edward, and he carried on the feud with him.

and to whoever said this album sucks, i really don't like you very much