Queen eh?

BiGi wrote: porter wrote: HA HA HA!! this is really fun, I would suggest you to listen carefully to Mr. Steve Harris' bass lines: THEY ARE THE MO****F***IN' SAME ON EVRY MO****F***IN' SONG HE'S EVER WRITTEN...now WHO IS THE PLASTIC MUSICIAN? And more, if you think Queen don't have originality, you don't know WHAT originality IS, seriously. Well, I would not put it that way... Steve Harris is indeed an outstanding bass player, and an excellent composer. I find Murray and Smith's guitar lines very recurrent from time to time instead...

you're right, Steve is great at bass, it's just that he always sounds the same to my ears....in his songs the bass line is just the same in evry one he's written, i'm not kidding; I've had some ugly rows in the past with some friends of mine who were oturaged by this theory; but it's true! Try to compare "The trooper" with "Caught somewhere in time" with "The rhyme..." with "Out of the silent planet" with "Alexander the great" with...should i go on? Same 3 notes all the time.....

anyway, I agree that he has a great sound, original style, etc.

BiGi wrote: Citanul wrote: chopper wrote: I'm not a huge Queen fan but I must agree with most people here - they're great musicians and even The Beatles can't claim hits written by all 4 members (unless you include Octopus' Garden ). On the subject of hits - Queen's album <span style="font-style: italic;">The Works</span> had four singles, each written by a different band member, and each one made it into the top 20 (it might even have been the top 10, but I can't remember exactly).  The only other band I can think of who might have had hits written by all the members is the Eagles, although I think they tended to collaborate rather that write the songs on their own. Actually the leading writing force was Don Henley/Glenn Frey. I can't recall any Don Felder, Joe Walsh, Bernie Leadon or Randy Meisner-penned hit at the moment...

Yeah, you're right.  I checked on Wikipedia, and most of the hits were written by Henley and Frey, although everyone had a hand in the songwritng - Hotel California was written by Henley/Frey/Felder and Take it to the Limit was written by Meisner/Henley/Frey, and the other members wrote songs that weren't released as singles.

Still, I was trying to think of bands who might have had hits written by more than one member, and the Eagles came to mind, but I've been proved wrong. 

Iron Maiden can claim hits written by Steve Harris (Run to the Hills and others), Bruce Dickinson (Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter) and Adrian Smith (Wasted Years), but that's only 3 members.

porter wrote: HA HA HA!! this is really fun, I would suggest you to listen carefully to Mr. Steve Harris' bass lines: THEY ARE THE MO****F***IN' SAME ON EVRY MO****F***IN' SONG HE'S EVER WRITTEN...now WHO IS THE PLASTIC MUSICIAN? And more, if you think Queen don't have originality, you don't know WHAT originality IS, seriously.

Well, I would not put it that way...
Steve Harris is indeed an outstanding bass player, and an excellent composer.

I find Murray and Smith's guitar lines very recurrent from time to time instead...

Citanul wrote: chopper wrote: I'm not a huge Queen fan but I must agree with most people here - they're great musicians and even The Beatles can't claim hits written by all 4 members (unless you include Octopus' Garden ). On the subject of hits - Queen's album <span style="font-style: italic;">The Works</span> had four singles, each written by a different band member, and each one made it into the top 20 (it might even have been the top 10, but I can't remember exactly).  The only other band I can think of who might have had hits written by all the members is the Eagles, although I think they tended to collaborate rather that write the songs on their own.

Actually the leading writing force was Don Henley/Glenn Frey.
I can't recall any Don Felder, Joe Walsh, Bernie Leadon or Randy Meisner-penned hit at the moment...

Blacksword wrote: Songs like 'Sun & Steel' and 'Quest for fire' were terribly weak songs; the Iron Maiden idea of filler tracks IMO.

Agreed...I don't particularly dig them too!
Quest for fire's only remarkable trait is featuring the highest note ever in a Maiden solo (I can't specify the very point...I had the tablature, but my former guitarist borrowed my book and never returned it... )

IMO, Queen were a "progressive" band -- they got progressively crappier and more irritating after "Sheer heart Attack."

Maiden were at their best on 'Killers' and 'Number of the Beast'

Their concept tracks thereafter were quite good, with the exception of Alexander the Great from 'Somewhere in Time' (??)

I'm not a huge Queen fan but I must agree with most people here - they're great musicians and even The Beatles can't claim hits written by all 4 members (unless you include Octopus' Garden ).

M. B. Zapelini wrote: MikeEnRegalia wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Well since queen suddenly is PROG then suddenly you have to compare their songwriting skills to other PROG artists. And they are fair enough composers compared to most rock/pop artists but compared to most PROG artists they lack quite a bit. gee its fun writing PROG with big letters. "Queen is PROG" ... noone said that. They're in the archives, filed under Art Rock. They were included because their early albums are considered PROG by the owners of the site and some influential members (and by me, incidentally). Nobody said that songs like We are the Champions or I Want to Break Free are PROG. Calm down a little. I guess that if Iron Maiden were included, you wouldn't want to see Queen fans bashing Iron Maiden with silly arguments like "They are no more progressive than Manowar" or "Bruce Dickinson can't sing". Great point, MikeEnRegalia. This Queen thread seems like an endless discussion. I don't like Queen, although I think they deserve a place right here at ProgArchives, as an Art Rock band. So what I usually do... I don´t visit their page at ProgArchive, I am not interested in what my fellow prog mates wrote about Queen. And PLEASE let's forget about Iron Maiden at ProgArchives - they are great heavy metal, probably the greatest heavy metal band of all time, but they're not prog. If you will judge by lenght of some songs (as "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner" - a fantastic song, by the way), so Venom would be prog ("At war With Satan" has 20+ minutes)...

I did not say that i would like iron maiden included i just said that iron maiden are far more progresive than queen will ever be. And why i call the songs Rhyme of the ancient marnier for progressive i have clearly staded above. And not because of its lenght.

MikeEnRegalia wrote: maidenrulez wrote: Well since queen suddenly is PROG then suddenly you have to compare their songwriting skills to other PROG artists. And they are fair enough composers compared to most rock/pop artists but compared to most PROG artists they lack quite a bit. gee its fun writing PROG with big letters. "Queen is PROG" ... noone said that. They're in the archives, filed under Art Rock. They were included because their early albums are considered PROG by the owners of the site and some influential members (and by me, incidentally). Nobody said that songs like We are the Champions or I Want to Break Free are PROG. Calm down a little. I guess that if Iron Maiden were included, you wouldn't want to see Queen fans bashing Iron Maiden with silly arguments like "They are no more progressive than Manowar" or "Bruce Dickinson can't sing".

Great point, MikeEnRegalia. This Queen thread seems like an endless discussion. I don't like Queen, although I think they deserve a place right here at ProgArchives, as an Art Rock band. So what I usually do... I don´t visit their page at ProgArchive, I am not interested in what my fellow prog mates wrote about Queen. And PLEASE let's forget about Iron Maiden at ProgArchives - they are great heavy metal, probably the greatest heavy metal band of all time, but they're not prog. If you will judge by lenght of some songs (as "Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner" - a fantastic song, by the way), so Venom would be prog ("At war With Satan" has 20+ minutes)...