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alan_pfeifer 
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 Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:17 |
I nomitae Jon Theodore as well, With Danney Carey and Portnoy following behind.
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:19 |
 +dreamtheater+ wrote:
who is mark zonder |
A drummer! 
Anyway, Spiral Architect's drummer is really good. I would say the
battle for the next Peart is between Portnoy and Spiral Architect's 
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I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:46 |
hukt on fonikzz wrote:
spectral wrote:
You can never call Peart overrated. Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend.
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mm yes you can...he is amazing of course i agree to that, but you cant reely compare him to some other drummers in terms of who is better than who. for me peart is one of the best in his style...for ex. chris pennie of DEP play much more ferociously but at the same time just as technical, peart could probably never do some of the stuff he does, and vise versa for someone like john theodore
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But Chris Pennie of DEP has no melody, I saw DEP and the band as a whole totally, totally SUCKED!
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Tony R
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:54 |
Biggles wrote:
You know, I've been listening to Peart, but I honestly can't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a drummer so I can't really make an accurate judgement of how good someone is, but I think Peart pales in comparison to someone like, say, Billy Cobham. In fact, I never thought Rush as a whole had an overwhelming amount of technique, although admittedly the bassist/singer (forget his name) does pull some cool stuff on "YYZ." |
To say that Neil Peart lacks "an overwhelming amount of technique" is,at best,ridiculous and at worst,an embarrassing thing for you to write.
You hardly know the band,yet sit in judgement like an expert. Check out the band's bio and MP3s before spouting this tripe.
or at least add a "" or a " "
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Single Coil
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:56 |
He older but not any worse for it.
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If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud!
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sonic wizard
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 19:03 |
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Another good reason to nominate Portnoy is because like Peart, he has great songwriting ability. We should be evaluating candidates on not only drumming technique (which is still very important), but also other musical abilities such as songwriting, composing, singing, or whatever. Which reminds me, Portnoy isn't to shabby at backup vocals.
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Arguing on the internet is a lot like the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded.
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 19:06 |
sonic wizard wrote:
Another good reason to nominate Portnoy is because like Peart, he has great songwriting ability. We should be evaluating candidates on not only drumming technique (which is still very important), but also other musical abilities such as songwriting, composing, singing, or whatever. Which reminds me, Portnoy isn't to shabby at backup vocals. |
Yea, I agree there. Some of his musical creations like SFAM and SDOIT are some of the finest I've ever heard or seen in Progressive music history! 
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DallasBryan
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 19:13 |
Neil adds up to a pimple on the PROGRESSIVE
BUTT of Billy Cobham, Phil Collins, Furio Cherico,
Jaki Liebezeit, Carl Palmer, Airto Moreira and
Michael Shrieve - SOME GREAT PROGRESSIVE
PERCUSSIONISTS! 
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Tiresias
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 20:25 |
unfortunately, Billy Cobham, Philly, Carl Palmer and Aierto Moreira are all older than Neil Peart.
besides wasn't Aierto mostly just a percussionist with Weather Report and Miles Davis?
Their actual drummers did stomp some ass.
The next Peart? Hmm...
Zoltan Czarz from The Flower Kings (sort of)
Danny Carey from Tool
Tim Alexander from Primus
Mike Portnoy from DT
I like Nick D'Virgillo (sp?) from Spock's Beard on the Albums before Feel Euphoria
Pat Mastelotto (just kidding)
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Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn...
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pogoowner
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 20:59 |
+dreamtheater+ wrote:
who is mark zonder |
Mark Zonder is Fates Warning's drummer, or at least was.
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And it might as well be raining, 'cause the sunlight hurts his eyes,
And his ears will never hear the children's cries
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Arsillus
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:34 |
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Portnoy
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floydaholic
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:35 |
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Nick Mason
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el böthy
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:46 |
mmm...what about the drummer from franz ferdinand??? hahahahaha...now thats being a bad drummer!!!!
hehehehe, well now, I also nomite Portnoy...but Im sure there must be some other excellent drummers out there from whom I have never heard of...
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ulver982
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:27 |
Hellhammer!!!!!!!!
but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes. She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!
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Improvement makes straight roads, but the crooked roads without improvement, are roads of genius.
Silence is the music of the future.
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Prog_Bassist
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:29 |
R.Darkmoon wrote:
+dreamtheater+ wrote:
who is mark zonder |
A drummer!
Anyway, Spiral Architect's drummer is really good. I would say the battle for the next Peart is between Portnoy and Spiral Architect's
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I concur.
Spiral Architect are gods. People on here should talk more about them!
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Damen
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:34 |
ulver982 wrote:
but even better then all, the drummer in the White Stripes. She's crazy on the drums...watch out neil!
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I hope that's sarcasm 
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"It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days."
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cobb
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 00:36 |
Biggles wrote:
You know, I've been listening to Peart, but I honestly
can't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a
drummer so I can't really make an accurate judgement of how good
someone is, but I think Peart pales in comparison to someone like, say,
Billy Cobham. In fact, I never thought Rush as a whole had an
overwhelming amount of technique, although admittedly the Geddy
Lee does pull some cool stuff on "YYZ." |
I am not a drummer either- you have to watch him to see what all the hype is about. Amazing
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limeyrob
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 03:27 |
Rush overated - ergo Peart overated.
What's all this about YYZ? Is he only famous for one track on an overated album?
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porter
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 06:05 |
limeyrob wrote:
Rush overated - ergo Peart overated.
What's all this about YYZ? Is he only famous for one track on an overated album?
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what?!?! have you ever listened to his work with a CRITIC EAR? Peart is a GREAT drummer, he ALWAYS astonishes me, in every single song I hear. He's so passionate and so precise at the same time, he has one of the best drum sounds I've ever heard, so clean and so powerful, technical but with warmth. He may not be the BEST drummer in the world but he IS among the greatest.
Rush overrated? don't see how...
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"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")
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hukt on fonikzz
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:35 |
King of Loss wrote:
hukt on fonikzz wrote:
spectral wrote:
You can never call Peart overrated. Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend.
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mm yes you can...he is amazing of course i agree to
that, but you cant reely compare him to some other drummers in terms of
who is better than who. for me peart is one of the best in his
style...for ex. chris pennie of DEP play much more ferociously but at
the same time just as technical, peart could probably never do some of
the stuff he does, and vise versa for someone like john theodore
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But Chris Pennie of DEP has no melody, I saw DEP and the band as a whole totally, totally SUCKED! |
and your entitled to your opinion, as am i.
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