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Arsillus
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 21:34 |
Portnoy
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pogoowner
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 20:59 |
+dreamtheater+ wrote:
who is mark zonder |
Mark Zonder is Fates Warning's drummer, or at least was.
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And it might as well be raining, 'cause the sunlight hurts his eyes,
And his ears will never hear the children's cries
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Tiresias
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 20:25 |
unfortunately, Billy Cobham, Philly, Carl Palmer and Aierto Moreira are all older than Neil Peart.
besides wasn't Aierto mostly just a percussionist with Weather Report and Miles Davis?
Their actual drummers did stomp some ass.
The next Peart? Hmm...
Zoltan Czarz from The Flower Kings (sort of)
Danny Carey from Tool
Tim Alexander from Primus
Mike Portnoy from DT
I like Nick D'Virgillo (sp?) from Spock's Beard on the Albums before Feel Euphoria
Pat Mastelotto (just kidding)
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Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn...
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DallasBryan
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 19:13 |
Neil adds up to a pimple on the PROGRESSIVE
BUTT of Billy Cobham, Phil Collins, Furio Cherico,
Jaki Liebezeit, Carl Palmer, Airto Moreira and
Michael Shrieve - SOME GREAT PROGRESSIVE
PERCUSSIONISTS!
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 19:06 |
sonic wizard wrote:
Another good reason to nominate Portnoy is because like Peart, he has great songwriting ability. We should be evaluating candidates on not only drumming technique (which is still very important), but also other musical abilities such as songwriting, composing, singing, or whatever. Which reminds me, Portnoy isn't to shabby at backup vocals. |
Yea, I agree there. Some of his musical creations like SFAM and SDOIT are some of the finest I've ever heard or seen in Progressive music history!
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sonic wizard
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 19:03 |
Another good reason to nominate Portnoy is because like Peart, he has great songwriting ability. We should be evaluating candidates on not only drumming technique (which is still very important), but also other musical abilities such as songwriting, composing, singing, or whatever. Which reminds me, Portnoy isn't to shabby at backup vocals.
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Arguing on the internet is a lot like the special olympics - even if you win, you're still retarded.
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Single Coil
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:56 |
He older but not any worse for it.
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If it's worth playing, it's worth playing loud!
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Tony R
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:54 |
Biggles wrote:
You know, I've been listening to Peart, but I honestly can't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a drummer so I can't really make an accurate judgement of how good someone is, but I think Peart pales in comparison to someone like, say, Billy Cobham. In fact, I never thought Rush as a whole had an overwhelming amount of technique, although admittedly the bassist/singer (forget his name) does pull some cool stuff on "YYZ." |
To say that Neil Peart lacks "an overwhelming amount of technique" is,at best,ridiculous and at worst,an embarrassing thing for you to write. You hardly know the band,yet sit in judgement like an expert. Check out the band's bio and MP3s before spouting this tripe.
or at least add a "" or a ""
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King of Loss
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:46 |
hukt on fonikzz wrote:
spectral wrote:
You can never call Peart overrated. Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend.
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mm yes you can...he is amazing of course i agree to that, but you cant reely compare him to some other drummers in terms of who is better than who. for me peart is one of the best in his style...for ex. chris pennie of DEP play much more ferociously but at the same time just as technical, peart could probably never do some of the stuff he does, and vise versa for someone like john theodore
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But Chris Pennie of DEP has no melody, I saw DEP and the band as a whole totally, totally SUCKED!
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R.Darkmoon
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:19 |
+dreamtheater+ wrote:
who is mark zonder |
A drummer!
Anyway, Spiral Architect's drummer is really good. I would say the
battle for the next Peart is between Portnoy and Spiral Architect's
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I'm not antisocial, I just don't like wasting my breath...
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:17 |
I nomitae Jon Theodore as well, With Danney Carey and Portnoy following behind.
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+dreamtheater+
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 18:13 |
who is mark zonder
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pogoowner
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:53 |
Mark Zonder
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And it might as well be raining, 'cause the sunlight hurts his eyes,
And his ears will never hear the children's cries
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Biggles
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:41 |
You know, I've been listening to Peart, but I honestly can't see what all the hype is about. Maybe it's because I'm not a drummer so I can't really make an accurate judgement of how good someone is, but I think Peart pales in comparison to someone like, say, Billy Cobham. In fact, I never thought Rush as a whole had an overwhelming amount of technique, although admittedly the Geddy Lee does pull some cool stuff on "YYZ."
Edited by Biggles
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The crux of the biscuit is the apostrophe.
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hukt on fonikzz
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:18 |
spectral wrote:
You can never call Peart overrated. Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend. |
mm yes you can...he is amazing of course i agree to that, but you cant
reely compare him to some other drummers in terms of who is better than
who. for me peart is one of the best in his style...for ex. chris
pennie of DEP play much more ferociously but at the same time just as
technical, peart could probably never do some of the stuff he does, and
vise versa for someone like john theodore
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there is no spoon...
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spectral
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:15 |
You can never call Peart overrated. Just check out YYZ or O Baterista to realise why he is a legend.
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+dreamtheater+
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:13 |
neil peart don't just play quickly he have a technique and he have a sound amazing when he play
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hukt on fonikzz
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:13 |
if you mean who will be the peart as in same style then portnoy. he is
on the verge of being a pert wanna be but IMO peart is overrated
anyway, the best drummers right now (also IMO) are danny carey, john
theodore, chris pennie, and ben koller
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there is no spoon...
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:11 |
+dreamtheater+ wrote:
jon theodore will never be the best drummer |
Long live constructive arguments!!!!!!
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Mnemosyne
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Posted: August 28 2005 at 17:11 |
Axel Von Blomberg (Winds, Age of Silence and hundreds of others), Asgeir Mickelson (Borknagar, Lunaris, Spiral Architect), Martin Kneppen also has a nice performance on Asmegin- Hin Vordende sod og Sø. Another great one is Zoltan Csörz (TFK, OPus Atlantica)
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