Worst prog band?

mirco wrote: fandango wrote: mirco wrote: Well, the obvious one, Styx... more a joke than a prog band. You ARE Joking, right?  I think you need to listen to 'The Grand Illusion' again, just to refresh your memory as to how good they were... your grey matter has clearly gone a bit fuzzy around the edges with age!! I think you should pay more respect to my age, And re-listen to Mr Lobotto and Babe, before use such insunstantial argument.

Anybody can pick on the worst couple of tracks of a band (and indeed, you've succeeded!) in order to ridicule them, but in my person oppinion, 'Grand Illusion' and 'Pieces of Eight' were great albums, and 'Paradise Theater' was creative and grossly underrated as a concept. 

Anyway, I shall stand no Styx bashing in this forum!!

Mirco wrote:

I think you should pay more respect to my age, And re-listen to Mr Lobotto and Babe, before use such insunstantial argument.

First time I have to disagree with you Mirco, you don't judge  a band for their worst albums and songs if theyhave some that are great,  so let me give you some examples:

You can't disqualify Genesis  because of Invisible Touch, Genesis will be remembered 30 years from know probably because of Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme and The Lamb, not because the pop albums that only Prog' fans remember (To criticize them), because mainstream listeners forget the band they worship after a few months of inactivity or if they cease to be cool.

Would you evaluate ELP for Love Beach and In the Hot Seat when you have Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery?

Yes contribution to Progressive Rock and art can't be judged for Big Generator, because Close to the Edge and Relayer constitute icons of prog' rock.

So it is absolutely unfair to judge more than a decade of Styx for Kilroy Was Here or Babe.

As Fandango and NetsNJFan say, The Grand Illusion is a great album, not prog (except for Fooling Yourself) but still a release that had no fillers or bad tracks, maybe you don't like it but that doesn't mean it's bad.

Why remember Cornerstone because of the only weak track like Babe, yes this song is crap, but  Lights, with an incredible vocal work is an amazing song that deserve a place in Rock (I don't say Prog') pantheon.

Please, try to be fair, Styx had very good albums like the already mentioned, Styx, Styx I, The Serpent is Raising or Cristal Ball, why always mention their worst mistakes?

Iván

Guess:

The cheesiest prog group with the cheesiest album covers and the cheesiest fans...

Some prog bands that I found boring:

Cairo

Mangala Valis

UFO (their second album is prog but really boring IMO)

Refugee (interestingly enough their only album is regarded as a classic, with a solid set of 5 star reviews in the archives)

Almost anything by Rick Wakeman

Almost anything by Clive Nolan/Oliver Wakeman

raindance wrote: 80's KING CRIMSON bores me to tears. I have a good laugh to myself when I see anything post-Discipline given 5 stars! FRANK ZAPPA-I wouldn't call him prog anyway but either way I detest anything he's done!

i agree with both statements 100%.  Zappa aint THAT bad tho but he aint pure prog, I just hate the way he cranked out albums, spend some god damn tiem on them and be selective in what you put out for godsakes!

I don't see why people are knocking Zappa, he's not prog therefore he can't be one of the "worst" prog musicians. Pick on someone else.

Has anyone mentioned the Yes-copy-cats "Starcastle" yet?

mirco wrote: Fantômas wrote: flowerchild wrote: Fantômas wrote: Genesis or Yes. Ok, I'm sorry... I found two bands that are worse (in fact, I like Yes' Drama and Relayer a bit): PFM and Banco. Now, these 2 are the worse bands EVER. Now you are being just provocateur...

exactly........they are insanely talented.............much moreso than the group FANTOMAS and their noise posing as music

I hate how if someone says they are 'avant-garde' ppl think they are intellectual and deep, when in reality they are making boring noise not music.