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    Posted: April 25 2005 at 03:09
These days, we are living a sad time...
We are witness of the end of analogic era to enter into the horrible numeric era.
I was reading an article about the numerization of Radio.
They tell we will have a better sound quality.
That's false!!!
We gonna have a worst sound quality...
(it's the same when CD arrived, they told it was the perfect musical format, and now they try to sell SACD or DVD audio (which are both rotten) and they tell it's really perfcet, and that CD was not, after having lie to people.)

On the radio, they already broadcast numeric, but they broacast by the analogic way, which has the effect to soften the sound, the same than when you record a CD on a good tape deck.
But soon, they will broadcast numeric, which means you will not have noise between two frequences, but the sound will be more harsher and sharp.

Karnevil, you're welcome on this thread. Let's forget the divisions of the past and let's unite our forces to fight the numeric devil!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 10:50
Here's my theory Oliver: if music is not quantized, why should its playback be quantized. The answer is: IT SHOULDN'T. I think vinyl will make a comeback.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:23
I'm not sure to understand well the term: "Quantized"
Do you mean "coverted into numeric"?
If it's that, i understand.

The fact to numerize sound makes that you loose some informations.
It's a simplification of the sound that make it sound sharp, harsh, dynamic-less, boring, it breaks your ears...
The Cd format is unable to reproduce sound and music with an acceptable quality.
That's what so much people return to vynil, as you say.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 11:58
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

I'm not sure to understand well the term: "Quantized"
Do you mean "coverted into numeric"?
If it's that, i understand.

That's what I mean: converting soundwaves to numeric representation using discrete steps. Like sampling. CDs are samples in the most simple of terms, anyway. They are sampled at some precise rate---but never precise enough.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:05
Never precise enough!
You're right and that's numeric's problem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:17

I wonder if there is a way that a laser could be guided along the groove of a vinyl record, and the vibration of the laser could produce the sound. This way, there would be no friction from a stylus, so the vinyl wouldn't wear out, yet the technology would still technically be analog. We might have to make the record out of some refective material , but it sounds possible to me. What do you think? Then some mirrors on the arm could pick up the vibrations of the laser and they would somehow be converted to signal and put through an amp and speakers.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:39
Actually, there has been already a attempt(by the japanese)to make a machine which reads the vynil with a laser beam.

But, unfortunatly, for some reason, it doesn't works at all, it's not musical...

Vynil (with K7 and tuner) stays the best source available...








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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 12:59
Originally posted by Crimson Prince Crimson Prince wrote:

I wonder if there is a way that a laser could be guided along the groove of a vinyl record, and the vibration of the laser could produce the sound. This way, there would be no friction from a stylus, so the vinyl wouldn't wear out, yet the technology would still technically be analog. We might have to make the record out of some refective material , but it sounds possible to me. What do you think? Then some mirrors on the arm could pick up the vibrations of the laser and they would somehow be converted to signal and put through an amp and speakers.

There is some laser disc sort of thing, smaller than vinyl I think but basically working in the way you outline.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 15:50
Um yeah,there all already vinyl players that work in this way, but (i think) they cost an unbelievable amount of money

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2005 at 15:55
Here you go, they cost between £8,500 and £10,500, depending on what you want (and yes it is pounds)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2005 at 02:09
Yes, but it's not good.

stay "classic"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2005 at 04:47
Some firms like McIntosh (not mac like apple compurers mac) still work on bulbs.
They're the best.
And I worry more about being numeric in every aspect of our lives, people don't value life for happines but for the dollars they earn, they don't measure time for the plesure you have but for the minutes you're late, they don't dont measure love for the intensity of the moments with their couple or family, but for how many people they f**k.

That really sucks!
read marx don't read parsons or something
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2005 at 05:14
Yes, but mac intosh lonly kept the "look" of their legendary 70's devices, but the inside is crap.

For Amp, better choose a Jolida





Here are guenuine good mac tuners:





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2005 at 20:24

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 12:58
So you eventually discovered that Jolida is the best quality/price of all HIFI?

That's good.

It's not too late!

Jolida 302, QUITE AS GOOD AS A 10 000 € CONRAD JOHNSON AMP BUT 5 TIMES LESS EXPENSIVE



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:03
JOLIDA 1000
TWO IS BETTER




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 13:04
lITTLE CONFUSION



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2005 at 08:23
Nice looking, but average sounding...
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