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cobb
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Topic: Microphone feedback Posted: August 19 2005 at 02:51 |
Any information on the following annoyannce would be appreciated.
I am having trouble with microphone feedback
It is an SM58 going through a beringer mixer. I have tried position of
mic and speakers, gain, getting the singer to only stay in the half
inch zone, shark feedback destroyer, but nothing seems to fix the
problem. I am not overloading the mixer, we are always under 0db on
main. The AKG radio mic doesn't have any probs.
Any sound gurus out there with practical knowledge, ideas or suggestions?
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 11:24 |
Sorry, you seem to have covered all the bases ...
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porter
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 13:07 |
the mic is broken in my opinion, if you have REALLY tried everything that seems the most likely theory...you can try other mics and see how they behave, but I'm almost sure that the 58 has a problem.
(hey thank you for making me feel a "sound guru"....which indeed i'm not )
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"my kingdom for a horse!" (W. Shakespeare, "Richard III")
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 13:30 |
porter wrote:
the mic is broken in my opinion, if you have REALLY tried everything that seems the most likely theory...you can try other mics and see how they behave, but I'm almost sure that the 58 has a problem.
(hey thank you for making me feel a "sound guru"....which indeed i'm not )
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Is the feedback a "real" feeback which occurs when people sing or loud noises are caught in a feedback loop, or is it just a constant high pitched sound? The latter might be a case of microphonic feedback. This is caused by parts of the microphone vibrating, so it's not an acoustical, but rather a mechanical problem. This penomenon also occurs by Les Paul style guitar pickups, when the metal plate surrounding the coils is causing vibrations.
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cobb
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Posted: August 20 2005 at 21:40 |
No, the feedback creeps in, usually when the singer moves back from the
mic. It is a backing singer mic, so not in use all the time. I have
tried placing the speakers behind, adjacent to and in front. The
feedback destroyer picks up the feedback and kills it, but it can only
allocate 10 frequency levels and the feedback seems to occur on more
than these freqs. This means once it has allocated the 10 it goes back
and steals the ones it has already allocated, leaving the original
frequency open for feedback again. This of course controls the whole
level of the system. I cannot get it to the levels I would like to be
playing at. These levels are not excessive (small club, pub level).
Maybe it is just an unresolveable problem that occurs with the
combination of the sm58, behringer mixer and peavey PA & JBL speakers. The
whole system only has an output of 300W, so i am not dealing with
massive power output.
Edited by cobb
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