A Change Of Seasons (The Song)

I love this epic ... some others don't. I honestly don't know why some of you don't like it ... what is good/bad about it, which other similar epics would you prefer?

I think it is excellent, and it has always had a bit of a Close To The Edge vibe to it for me, especially Mike's drumming, which seems more Bruford-inspired on this song, whereas he usually sounds very Peart-inspired to me. Great 7-string acoustic intro too!

its really good, i espeically love the live scenes from new york version where mike portnoy goes off stage and comes back in a bathrobe and they randomly play the theme from the simpsons in the middle of it!

To conclude their 3 hour set, James Labrie announces to the audience "sorry for the short set list!"

Dream Theater are brilliant, more brilliant than you

xxx

Manunkind wrote: Ben2112 wrote: I think it is excellent, and it has always had a bit of a Close To The Edge vibe to it for me, especially Mike's drumming, which seems more Bruford-inspired on this song, whereas he usually sounds very Peart-inspired to me. Great 7-string acoustic intro too! I agree. IMO, the question of originality aside, it's even slightly better than CTTE, as the particular sections flow into one another more logically.

I admit, the joining of CTTE's four movement's is at times irrational, but it is still the supreme Prog Epic

Unifaun wrote: its really good, i espeically love the live scenes from new york version where mike portnoy goes off stage and comes back in a bathrobe and they randomly play the theme from the simpsons in the middle of it! To conclude their 3 hour set, James Labrie announces to the audience "sorry for the short set list!" Dream Theater are brilliant, more brilliant than you xxx

Hahah, I have those CDs too, I love all of it. It was a GREAT concert, especially some of the different stuff they throw in. The order of songs is great too.

By FAR, tha best song by Dream Theater. I believe that anybody could love this one, even the DT haters.

It is not my favorite Dream Theater song, but its definitely in my top 5 with Learning to Live, Trial of Tears, Space-Dye Vest and Metropolis, I just love that song, its so amazing.

And no the ultimate Progressive Metal epic would not be this song, but rather Learning to Live :)

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JMCecil wrote: I was going to reply with all the reasons why, but then decided to hold my peace about why I don't like this song.  It would only make you mad and start a "Yes it is" "No it isn't" war that won't accomplish anything.  Let's just leave it that I don't even think it's good music let alone good prog.

Obviously you don't like the song, that's fine with me. But what objective reasons are there that lead you to the statement that it's "bad" music or even not prog at all? I'm a musician, and I'm curious to see if there are specific elements of this song that drive people off, is it the singing, the heavy parts, ...   

NetsNJFan wrote: Manunkind wrote: Ben2112 wrote: I think it is excellent, and it has always had a bit of a Close To The Edge vibe to it for me, especially Mike's drumming, which seems more Bruford-inspired on this song, whereas he usually sounds very Peart-inspired to me. Great 7-string acoustic intro too! I agree. IMO, the question of originality aside, it's even slightly better than CTTE, as the particular sections flow into one another more logically.  I admit, the joining of CTTE's four movement's is at times irrational, but it is still the supreme Prog Epic

Why then should it be considered the sureme Prog Epic? Shouldn't the supreme prog epic be inspired, inspiring, innovative AND cohesive?

EDIT: I don't want to start an argument over CTTE here, I simply detect double standards at play.

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geezer wrote: Riph wrote: I think it's one of the best heavy metal songs ever written. i think you nailed it. it probably is a great heavy metal song but not a great prog song.

Paranoid is a great heavy metal song. ACOS is not like Paranoid. ACOS is much more complex, with odd time signatures, different sections, keyboard layers, ... it is as prog as prog can be. What you fail to see (IMHO of course) is that there are various forms of prog. The most fitting of which seems to be prog metal in this case. If ACOS is not prog metal, what is?