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Guillermo
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Topic: "Genesis Look at Themselves" Interview Posted: August 15 2005 at 18:59 |
As I have read several threads in this Forum with questions about some Genesis`songs and albums, I think that this interview could be interesting for some people who likes this band. The interview was available in a website from Holland called "Los Endos", but today I searched for it using Google, and fortunately I found it in:
http://genesis-path.net/art82-03.html
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 19:13 |
Excellent, thanks Guillermo!
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Guillermo
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 19:16 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Excellent, thanks Guillermo! |

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Fearless
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 19:57 |
Very interesting stuff. Thanks a lot Guillermo.
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fezman
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 20:18 |
Great article. Good find!!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 15 2005 at 21:06 |
tony banks "Misunderstanding is not represantitive of our sound"

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Hangedman
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 13:54 |
Very informative, and interesting. Thanks!
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Syntharachnid
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 14:16 |
NetsNJFan wrote:
tony banks "Misunderstanding is not represantitive of our sound"

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Yes, Tony. Much applause.
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Guillermo
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 00:33 |
Syntharachnid wrote:
NetsNJFan wrote:
tony banks "Misunderstanding is not represantitive of our sound"

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Yes, Tony. Much applause.
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"It`s not representative of us, but it is just another zone of the band" (Tony Banks).
Why they chose it for a single? It was a decision done as a band, IMO.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 02:01 |
are they all getting along? no bad feelings?
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Cluster One
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 02:26 |
Great interview and very telling.
Steve is blatantly not mentioned AT ALL until AFTER Wind &
Wuthering when he gets fed up and leaves, and then the three remaining
guys lay into him by saying "we didn't miss him" or "it was time for
him to go" NO CLASS!
To overlook his contribution(s) to Selling-Lamb-Trick-Wind is a sin that Banks/Collins/Rutherford should feel ashamed about!
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 12:16 |
Cluster One wrote:
Great interview and very telling.
Steve is blatantly not mentioned AT ALL until AFTER Wind & Wuthering when he gets fed up and leaves, and then the three remaining guys lay into him by saying "we didn't miss him" or "it was time for him to go" NO CLASS!
To overlook his contribution(s) to Selling-Lamb-Trick-Wind is a sin that Banks/Collins/Rutherford should feel ashamed about!
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It's really a shame - the three of them treated Steve like sh*t. He's a much better writer than Mike Rutherford (who every now and then did write a good song)
I feel bad for him, some of him, but I would have stuck around in Genesis, just for $$$$ (yes i have no integrity)
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Gloryscene
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 12:50 |
Quality reading!
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"The Beautiful Ally Of Your Own Gravediggers"
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Fearless
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 13:32 |
Cluster One wrote:
Great interview and very telling.
Steve is blatantly not mentioned AT ALL until AFTER Wind & Wuthering when he gets fed up and leaves, and then the three remaining guys lay into him by saying "we didn't miss him" or "it was time for him to go" NO CLASS!
To overlook his contribution(s) to Selling-Lamb-Trick-Wind is a sin that Banks/Collins/Rutherford should feel ashamed about!
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I agree, no class at all....
This is Tony talking about "the Lamb....": "The three of us got on like a house on fire with the writing."
Tony hints that the reason why they began giving individual credits is because Steve wasn't pulling his weight. Well how about Phil, he never even wrote anything until 'Misunderstanding', which we all know is crap. They don't even show too much respect for Pete either, they didn't like him handling all the lyrics on tLLDoB and it seems that they were pleased when he left. It appears that they were sick of not getting enough attention-- these guys are clearly not giving PG and SH enough respect out of pride/ego's.
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stonebeard
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 13:48 |
can someone please answer my question?
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Man Overboard
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 14:05 |
Wow, that article makes me hate this people who were so mean to Peter and Steve...
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bertburt
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 14:07 |
I agree with you all that the indifference to Steve's departure was quite sad. No real announcement, just a quick "I'm leaving"....and no real response from the others, just relief. I think a little less of the remaining three after reading that part....
Also a little surprised that Tony isn't too fond of 'Can-Utility...'. That is far and away my favourite track on that album....
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 14:25 |
Tony: "Behind the Lines" was the one that came together first. Lots of
jamming - we were using a rhythm machine. "Duchess" came out of Phil
banging along with his drum pads; we developed the riffs and melody
lines. "Misunderstanding," it seems to me, proves that Americans are
suckers for anything that goes boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Maybe
hat's unfair."
Tony: "Misunderstanding is not representitive of our sound"
When Duke came out I was a) ok with it because it was better than And
Then There Were Three, b) dissappointed because I still held out hope
that the glory days of the genre were not over and Genesis could save us
and c) quite sure everyone in the world heard "Misunderstanding" for
what it was...total crap, even from a "Top 40" stand point.
Well I went to see them on that tour. Seems i was wrong about
"Misunderstanding" Seems as if the entire audience was waiting for that
sonng and went wild when they played it. In fact, the guy in front of me
was on his feet, fists raised in exultation. My reaction: a) kill him, b) leave
now and pretend it never happen, c) both of the above, or d) come to the
realization that I was utterly alone in this world and learn to live with it.
Yeah, there must be some misunderstanding... and it was mine. I thought
Genesis might keep a shred of dignity.
Long live the (real) Genesis clones.
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Publius
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 15:49 |
Good article. I didn't realise that all the guitar work on Nursery Cryme was written by some no-namer short lived guitarist.
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Sir Hogweed
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Posted: August 17 2005 at 16:31 |
How would the interview after CAS have been?
Tony: We never cared much for Phil. He was quite a loser who didn't know anything about music and we had to tell him his stuff all the time.
Mike: (laughs) Yeah, what an untalented douchebag he was. I felt so relieved when he finally got the message and left. Just like the thing with... I've forgotten their names.
Tony: Yeah, the two of us wrote 99% of the material anyway. We could have been so much more succesful if we had dropped them all right away.
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