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Poll Question: Out Of The 4 Most Famous Prog Lead Vocalists, Who’s The Best?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 00:45

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Especially with Ringo's All Stars. As for Geddy, I'm sorry, but I have to go with a lot of people and say while he still has range, his voice is still annoying.

Are you still referring to 2112 or around then? Check out Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows...I wish I could sing like that. Or sing, period, for that matter!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 01:11

I voted for Peter Gabriel - for me the best prog lead singer.  Good selection chosen as well except for Phil Collins - great voice but IMO he is a Pop singer not prog

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 01:20
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Especially with Ringo's All Stars. As for Geddy, I'm sorry, but I have to go with a lot of people and say while he still has range, his voice is still annoying.


Are you still referring to 2112 or around then? Check out Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals, Grace Under Pressure, Power Windows...I wish I could sing like that. Or sing, period, for that matter!



Funny you mentioned that. I didn't really know who Rush was 'til about '79. I'm now 48 and that this time in the 70s I was listening to fusion. Hard rock was pasee' for me then. Then one night me and a fellow drummer buddy of mine were listening to a prog station (WHFS in Wash DC) and they were playing an un-Godly instrumental that just blew our socks off. It turned out it was La Villa Strangiato from Hemespheres. We just went WHOA! This is Rush?! I had heard a little bit about them, but not much. Eventually I checked out some of their earliiar works, and Geddy's voice just annoyed the hell out of me. Finally I bought Permanent Waves (which to this day I consider their best album) and have been more or less hooked on them. But I'm sorry, Geddy's voice just doesn't stop scratching my butthole! Good range, but just not enough richness. But his voice became more tolerable later. I've always found that Geddy's voice became less a factor in their musicianship over the years since the late 70s.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 01:33

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

But I'm sorry, Geddy's voice just doesn't stop scratching my butthole!

Quote Good range, but just not enough richness. But his voice became more tolerable later. I've always found that Geddy's voice became less a factor in their musicianship over the years since the late 70s.

Definitely true in the '90s. He didn't sound as uninspired. That's not the case with Vapor Trails, but I won't recommend it because it's the hardest-sounding thing they've done in ages.

Are you more of a guitar fusion dude, or keyboard fusion? I lean towards keys, myself, but I let my ears be the judge(s).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 02:05
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

But I'm sorry, Geddy's voice just doesn't stop scratching my butthole!



Quote Good range, but just not enough richness. But his voice became more tolerable later. I've always found that Geddy's voice became less a factor in their musicianship over the years since the late 70s.


Definitely true in the '90s. He didn't sound as uninspired. That's not the case with Vapor Trails, but I won't recommend it because it's the hardest-sounding thing they've done in ages.


Are you more of a guitar fusion dude, or keyboard fusion? I lean towards keys, myself, but I let my ears be the judge(s).



Well, not to sound like a grodgy old man. But you learn to appreciate all the musicians in any band. Whether it be guitarist, keyboards, bassist or drummer. They all have their work to do. Some stand out more than others. In the case of Rush, I just can't help but love these 3 guys for their endurance. Especially after what Neil has gone through. That man has really shone what a heart can do under the most toughest pressure. They may not be the most original artist in rock all around (in fact, I've sometime considered them as copycats) but they sure don't stop.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 03:00

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Well, not to sound like a grodgy old man. But you learn to appreciate all the musicians in any band. Whether it be guitarist, keyboards, bassist or drummer. They all have their work to do. Some stand out more than others. In the case of Rush, I just can't help but love these 3 guys for their endurance. Especially after what Neil has gone through. That man has really shone what a heart can do under the most toughest pressure. They may not be the most original artist in rock all around (in fact, I've sometime considered them as copycats) but they sure don't stop.

Yes, "each has done his part," to paraphrase a well-known song. But in the case of non-prog rock bands a player or players may not stand out the way s/he would in a fusion band. Of course, in some rock groups, the singer and [lead] guitarist get all the glory. But this all falls under "given" (remember high school geometry?). And then there are your exceptions to these "rules" which aren't really rules or norms, they only seem that way. When I meant keyboard fusion, guitar fusion, bass fusion, etc., I meant if you were more a fan of guys like McLaughlin, Coryell, DiMeola, Holdsworth, Verheyen, Wright, et al., or Hammer, Corea, Zawinul, Duke, ad infinitum. I figured you lean towards guitarists. I lean towards keyboard-oriented music, as keyboards (particularly analog synths, the Mellotron, and the Hohner Clavinet, before organ & piano) and bass are my favorite instruments to listen to. Naturally, if I like something when I hear it, I simply like it. The instruments employed aren't necessarily a factor. Al Di Meola is one of my favorite guitarists. But my fave period of his is the 'classic era' from 1975-82, and Jan Hammer (one of my all-time fave keyboarders) played with Al during that time. But again, while I have my fave keyboardists, bassists, guitarists, drummers, etc., I'm not afraid to betray a healthy bias, but my formative years were spent listening to tons of electronic music (not the sissy dance/new romantic kind).

Every artist/band is influenced by somebody/something. Rush began life as a Led Zeppelin near-clone. Aside from that, I'm not sure who they were flagrantly copying if you say you sometimes consider them "copycats." Now Starcastle, I could understand!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 04:15

My vote goes to Peter...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 04:28
I like Wetton a lot, certainly on UK. I also like Ian Anderson's voice, its warm and playful. And Ashley Holt's incredible power, provided he doesn't sing out of tune. Listen to Jon Anderson scream on the gates live from yesshows FANTASTIC!! But Im think Collins is the greatest. just listen to suppers ready on second's out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 04:31
Definitely ARTHUR BROWN!!!!! the man and his thousand voices!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 04:37

Greg Lake had the most suitable voice for prog.He could sing baritone (like Battlefied) or higher pitched as on The Sage.Emerson 'threw' a lot of stuff at him but he coped well.Of the other nominees I would say Jon Anderson is totally one dimensional (but still great before I get Yes fans on my back ) while Gabriel is Gabriel..there's only one.

Collins is technically a very good singer,not to be dismissed lightly but not as good as the other three IMO.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 05:18

I voted for Jon Anderson in this poll, although I think that Greg Lake and Peter Gabriel were also great vocalists.  Might I however throw the name of Steve Perry in the ring?  Are any of you old enough to have owned 'Infinity' and 'Evolution' by Journey?  I apprecaite they weren't really prog albums (although I have more latterly seen them thrown into our camp) but the harmonies sent chills down my spine... or am I getting soft in my old age?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 06:27
I'll vote for Jon on this list, but if Geddy Lee and Peter Hamill were on here, I would have to think about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 06:42
I vote for Peter Gabriel in this poll but Peter Hamill and the superb STEVE WALSH (Kansas) are better!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 07 2005 at 09:21
Originally posted by dropForge dropForge wrote:

Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Well, not to sound like a grodgy old man. But you learn to appreciate all the musicians in any band. Whether it be guitarist, keyboards, bassist or drummer. They all have their work to do. Some stand out more than others. In the case of Rush, I just can't help but love these 3 guys for their endurance. Especially after what Neil has gone through. That man has really shone what a heart can do under the most toughest pressure. They may not be the most original artist in rock all around (in fact, I've sometime considered them as copycats) but they sure don't stop.


Yes, "each has done his part," to paraphrase a well-known song. But in the case of non-prog rock bands a player or players may not stand out the way s/he would in a fusion band. Of course, in some rock groups, the singer and [lead] guitarist get all the glory. But this all falls under "given" (remember high school geometry?). And then there are your exceptions to these "rules" which aren't really rules or norms, they only seem that way. When I meant keyboard fusion, guitar fusion, bass fusion, etc., I meant if you were more a fan of guys like McLaughlin, Coryell, DiMeola, Holdsworth, Verheyen, Wright, et al., or Hammer, Corea, Zawinul, Duke, ad infinitum. I figured you lean towards guitarists. I lean towards keyboard-oriented music, as keyboards (particularly analog synths, the Mellotron, and the Hohner Clavinet, before organ & piano) and bass are my favorite instruments to listen to. Naturally, if I like something when I hear it, I simply like it. The instruments employed aren't necessarily a factor. Al Di Meola is one of my favorite guitarists. But my fave period of his is the 'classic era' from 1975-82, and Jan Hammer (one of my all-time fave keyboarders) played with Al during that time. But again, while I have my fave keyboardists, bassists, guitarists, drummers, etc., I'm not afraid to betray a healthy bias, but my formative years were spent listening to tons of electronic music (not the sissy dance/new romantic kind).


Every artist/band is influenced by somebody/something. Rush began life as a Led Zeppelin near-clone. Aside from that, I'm not sure who they were flagrantly copying if you say you sometimes consider them "copycats." Now Starcastle, I could understand!



Well, the opening segment of Xanadu sounds a lot like Yes's Close to the Edge or something off Topographic Oceans. Alex's solo on Strangiato sounds like it's right off of Jeff Beck's 'Cause We Ended as Lovers or Goodbye Pork Pie Hat. These and among others. Their copycatting I think went on during the late 70s. Early 80s they found their nitche. Of course even then they seemed to be misappropiating The Police at times.IMO.

As far as what kind of fan I am, pretty hard to pin down. I played drums for many years but I like guitarists a lot (Jeff Beck during his fusion period and McLaughlin in particular). I guess I lean towards them. To me a guitar is a little more challenging. It's easy change the sound of a keyboard, you just push a button. But a guitar is a bit different. Hell, sometimes Beck can sound like a synth at times.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2005 at 07:01

Hey man, why is JAN Anderson not here?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2005 at 07:24

Tough one but I went for Jon Anderson for his sheer harmony work and timings...

Peter Gabriel's vocal character is so creative though and Greg Lake has that awesome gutsy/alto voice...

Phil's voice is consistent but he never really 'rinses' it.  Suits the songs he did for Genesis though and sounds really good for the atmospheric qualities on Brand X.

Don't forget Geddy Lee, Annie Haslam, John Wetton (especially on RED and UK) and of course and undoubtedly Ian Anderson - I think he should have been in the poll for sure the guy is a genius...he properly takes you to another world with his vocals and lyrics.

Also please note Cedric from The Mars Volta, incredible range, character and he's proved it live

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2005 at 07:35

It has to be Jon Anderson for me as the first time i heard Yes it was his melodies and awesome harmonies which took me off into a really magical place!

Albiet Gabriel has a voice with real character and theatre. Collins' voice is far more straighter and rock/pop orientated but still defo like the stuff he did on early Genesis and Brand X.

Have to agree with Infinity on Cedric and Geddy Lee as well both of them pull it off extremely well live

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2005 at 09:36

Ill go with Greg Lake then!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 11:56
C'mon!! Shouldn´t be Peter Hammill in that list??? And right on the top of it. My vote for both Peters (Hammill and Gabriel)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 15:19

My favourit is Fish especially in Misplaced Childhood or Script for a jester´s tear.

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