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Moogtron III 
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Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
 Posted: July 29 2005 at 05:36 |
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It does help. I must say. All of my older brothers were into prog. Just think about it. A great way to grow up. Edited by Moogtron III |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21618 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 06:57 |
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Nevertheless I grew up in a musical family and started playing instruments at the age of 9 ... when I was about 14, I was already heavily into prog metal like Queensryche and Dream Theater (inevitably). And although I didn't listen to "real" prog back then, I already started exploring other genres like experimental rock (Zappa is still more xep. rock than fusion to me), Fusion (Jeff Beck, Tribal Tech), classical (Orff, Ravel, Dvorak, Holst) or Jazz (Miles Davis, George Gershwin, Thelonious Monk). I think that my perspective may be different, but not necessarily worse. Edited by MikeEnRegalia |
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Moogtron III
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Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 08:28 |
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Well, that's certainly not worse! |
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 08:33 |
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I also grew up in a musical family and started playing drums at 6.All of my 3 older brothers play musical instruments and 2 of them were total prog heads back in the 70's when they were teenagers and I was a kid.I was exposed to Yes,Genesis,King Crimson,ELP and the like at a pretty early age.They definitely helped shaped my musical tastes,which they came to regret because I constantly bugged them to borrow albums and tape albums for me!! |
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Jared
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Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 08:58 |
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It seems to me that both Proggy & Mike had very solid musical backgrounds..and it shows in the way you discuss music in the threads, and the way you review...I wasn't exposed to any proper prog until well into early adulthood, because I have no older siblings, and my parents didn't think music was at all important..oh well, catching up now! |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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MikeEnRegalia
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21618 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 09:02 |
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I only have a (younger) sister, and she doesn't have any musical background - she can't sing in tune and won't find the "1" in any 4/4 ... at least she says so. But she listened to a lot of weird music as a teen, and she introduced me to Alice Cooper - great music, at least his 70s albums. |
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Jared
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Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Offline Points: 20414 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 09:02 |
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I also just recently heard CTTE for the first time, and its my second Yes album after the Fragile, and I love it. If their other albums are as good I think they might beat out KC as my all time favourite prog band. What should be my next Yes album? Relayer?
I think Relayer is great, as I've said, but don't forget to try The Yes Album...its sometimes seen as the poor relation of those three great early albums, undeservedly so...any album with Perpetual Change, Yours Is No Disgrace & Starship Trooper on, can't be all that bad! Edited by fandango |
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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TheProgtologist
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
Posted: July 29 2005 at 09:09 |
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I love The Yes Album |
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Wormboy
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Joined: June 06 2005 Status: Offline Points: 101 |
Posted: July 30 2005 at 16:38 |
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Agreed. Arguably the best prog rock album ever. A perfect
blend of composition, theme development, movements, virtuosity, and
production. Most of all, a really tight whole, and a serious
avoidance of w**kery (which Yes seriously got into in later albums).
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vava
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Joined: June 15 2005 Status: Offline Points: 55 |
Posted: July 31 2005 at 05:23 |
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actually i do prefer the yes album over fragile
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The Hemulen
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 31 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 5964 |
Posted: July 31 2005 at 06:56 |
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Quite simply, this was the album that made me care about music. Need I say more?
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Arteum
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Joined: May 06 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 184 |
Posted: August 10 2005 at 18:41 |
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Sorry, guys, I am going to spoil your happy smilies. I completely agree
with the review below. In my opinion, "Close To The Edge" is nowhere
being among great prog albums. It is, as many pople note, "very messy".
believe me, I tried to love it. I listened to it 15 times and I still
cannot understand what is so special about it. Yes, it's good, but to
give it 5 stars?? 3.5 maximum. Melody in the first track is absent,
singing is amateurish ... In fact, the structure of this album reminds
me of jellyfish -- some pseudo-structure is present, but I fail to
catch either a good beat or melody.There is only one part of it
that I like: the "funeral" section. But this lasts just a few seconds
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And this is considered YES best album! I tried to love other ones, but they are even worse. YES is simply a good average band, not even in top 20 progressive bands. I already wrote it several times, but I am going to write it again (and possibly will start a new thread about it, so that more people might notice it): can anybody name me at least five tracks of this "great" YES that would be at least distantly close to the musicanship and execution of the following by their contemporaries GENESIS: 1. 'Firth of Fifth' 2. 'Supper's Ready' 3. 'Afterglow' 4. 'Los Endos' 5. 'Cinema Show' (especially in "Seconds Out" version) plus many many other excellent tracks. Did YES ever write anything even remotely as great?! Be honest with yourself. Give me examples! I am sure YES would be equally submerged by PF, ELP, PORCUPINE TREE, anything ...! 
YES - Close to the Edge (1972)Review (Permanent link) by Must S. Beard @ 5:55:04 PM EST, 8/10/2005  —
I have a question to impose upon ye all: WHAT is the big deal with this album? If anything
is deserving of the term overrated, this is it. I just don't understand the obsession with this
album. To start off, I'll mention the 2nd and 3rd tracks, which I think are great, and its sad
that these two songs get lumped in with the mess that is Close to the Edge. And You And I
is a mostly beautiful song and Siberian Khatru is a fun sort of dance song. These two tracks
deserve to be on an at least 4-star album, and I feel sorry for them, I really do. All the
while they have to stare into the face of a needless 20 minutes of filth (I use that term
lightly). Now onto the "epic" (which is most likely about nothing). First of all, I must say
what is the need of the separately named parts? Three of them are the EXACT SAME
THING, disguised as different tunes because they have different bass lines (the bass lines
are one thing that I like in this song). Most of the song is spent with Jon hardly singing, just
pretty much talking with a change of pitch here and there. A four-year-old could do that.
Then at the end of the first part, after he says his annoying little "Not right away" part
(which the hilarious, pretentious liner notes call a stroke of genius), the 2nd part starts,
which...is...exactly...the same...as the...first..part. What a stroke of genius. They must
be Gods, at least the liner notes hint at that (the ones for TFTO are even funnier). After
the O.K. third part ends, Rick Wakemen's "amazing" keyboard solo of nothingness begins.
There's certainly no feeling put into it (at least Yes were consistent in this song), and I
shouldn't be one to judge but it doesn't sound like it's technically brilliant either. After this
little ditty from Rick Wakemen's "Godly" fingers ends, I either turn the damn thing off or the
4th part begins, and guess what? It's note for note the same as the 1st and 2nd parts!
Then the song ends and I do a little jig because it's all over. Sometimes I feel like Yes is a
parody of other prog-rock bands, with Jon and his annoying, cheesy vocals and Rick and
his dull, overrated keyboards. Chris and Steve are what make me like this band, and
sometimes even love it (like on Relayer, where most of the time Jon is shoved off to the
side so the real masters can do their work). In the End CTTE= 2.4 stars, AYAI & SK= 4.3
stars.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 17 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 4828 |
Posted: August 11 2005 at 03:38 |
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You didn't succeed! Hey, there's even BILL BRUFORD still in it! |
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MustShaveBeard
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Joined: February 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 366 |
Posted: August 11 2005 at 16:45 |
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Your life or your lupins!!!
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Laurent
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Joined: May 04 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 513 |
Posted: August 11 2005 at 18:37 |
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The boys in Yes were far ahead of their time in terms of Composition, and production. Production-wise, CTTE is miles ahead of any other album from the same era, even DSOTM. |
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chopper
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20033 |
Posted: August 13 2005 at 08:56 |
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Relayer is ace, you also need to hear Going For The One and The Yes Album. |
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