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    Posted: August 07 2005 at 11:07
They have been added to the archives. All rejoice! (I wonder who could have recommended them in the first place..............)

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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 11:08
From what I've heard by them that's a pretty sensible move. I hope they stay. 
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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 11:19

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

THEY SUCK!!!!!!! We shoulda added Muse instead!

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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 11:45
They might suck, but they're certainly progressive.

Edit: They've gone now anyway.


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Points: 16451 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 11:48

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

They might suck, but they're certainly progressive.

If they should be here, then bring on MUSE!
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Who deleted Co&Ca, and why?  I wanted to review them...  
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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:13
In fact, I was listenin' to a Co&Ca live EP, and during an extended instrumental improv, Claudio said "This is what the British would call prog-rock w**kery!" to cheers. 
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Points: 229 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 13:51
I don't know what happend but I don't think they are here anymore, I can't find them on here.
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They took it off the forum! My reason for their inclusion, apparently, wasn't good enough  All my hard work, for ZILCH!
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Points: 6667 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 14:35

Originally posted by Deadwing12 Deadwing12 wrote:

They took it off the forum! My reason for their inclusion, apparently, wasn't good enough  All my hard work, for ZILCH!

You could have asked first.
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Joren:  I don't know why he should've asked.  Bands like Neutral Milk Hotel that are DEFINITELY not prog are still around, but I assumed from previous threads on them that Co&Ca are considered prog, but some people don't like their aesthetic.
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Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Joren:  I don't know why he should've asked.  Bands like Neutral Milk Hotel that are DEFINITELY not prog are still around, but I assumed from previous threads on them that Co&Ca are considered prog, but some people don't like their aesthetic.

I didn't say he should have asked, I said he could have, because he's complaining about how much work it was... for nothing. I think most people knew that Coheed and Cambria were controversial (they have been discussed before, many people AGAINST adding). So if you ask first, you save yourself the trouble when they are not acceoted, that's all.

(By the way: Max said Neutral Milk Hotel will be deleted soon)



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Ah, I understand what you meant now. 

I still believe they're prog...  interesting time changes, complex intervals, a concept that spans multiple albums, innovative playing, crazy structures...  what's not to love?
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Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Ah, I understand what you meant now. 

I still believe they're prog...  interesting time changes, complex intervals, a concept that spans multiple albums, innovative playing, crazy structures...  what's not to love?

FLASHING NEWS: They sound Bad

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NEWS FLASH:  Taste is subjective.  Claudio's vocals are amazing, and the music is full of depth.

Someone could as easily say Frank Zappa sounds bad, but does that make him not prog?
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I'm totally with you on this one, Man Overboard.  I recently listened to both their albums again and the more you disect them, the more prog they are.  I'm sure the new album will help push them over the edge into the full-on world of prog. 

also, coheed being prog or not should be based on the music they play and not whether you like them or not.  disliking them is no reason to exclude them.
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That is the thing that I do not like about this particular website...a moderator can come in and delete stuff they don't consider prog, regardless of what another member might think.  I have not tried looking specifically for Coheed & Cambria here, but if their presence was deleted due to the "personal taste of someone in charge" that is a shame, and does a disservice to the members (customers) of this site that may want info.  You may dislike the band, but don't deny others the pleasure of reading about them. 

And yes, I have a C & C disk.  I have heard bad reviews on several prog sites, so I knew I had to check them out for myself.  Is it prog?  About as much as Porcupine Tree is, perhaps moreso.  It will continue to sit proudly on my shelf between my Clearlight and Colosseum discs.

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Points: 116 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 18:49
Im not usually like this but,I hate them I think they are the biggest pieces of S%#$ to walk this planet Their singer sucks and their musicians suck they are not prog, in my opinion theyre not music. They are the equivilent of any other punkband on this earth and do not stand out at all from any other power chord bands  Im sorry flame me all you want but this is just my opinion

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Originally posted by Chris88 Chris88 wrote:

Im not usually like this but,I hate them I think they are the biggest pieces of S%#$ to walk this planet Their singer sucks and their musicians suck they are not prog, in my opinion theyre not music. They are the equivilent of any other punkband on this earth and do not stand out at all from any other power chord bands  Im sorry flame me all you want but this is just my opinion


I guess you've never had the pleasure of hearing their many 8+ minute songs, with extended solos, and much wonderful music theory applied far beyond powerchords?

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Points: 2234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2005 at 18:52

muse are about as prog as cottage cheese fermented under a bosch 1962 model radiator.
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