John Zorn should be here?

Remember the second word of "progressive rock"

Marillion..? How not?

RIO's a difficult one but contextually it comes from the Canterbury scene which was at least loosely rock, and then drifts off into madness. Zorn may use elements of rock from time to time but, I don't know, it doesn't feel right. Not that I'd kick up a fuss if he were added.

Useful_Idiot wrote: If we add Zorn, that opens the door for legions of other free jazz artists.  I say no.

I concur.

DallasBryan wrote: and rename the website to the AvantArchives!

That would be MY DREAM!

Marillion is not rock, IMO. It's pop with prog elements. The problem is on the pop, which is poor and generic. However this is not a discussion about Marillion. 

God... There are two kind of music: Classical and popular (pop as you may like to call it). It's quite obvious that rock ain't classical, so it's pop (not because it's mainstream, you fool!)! But almost nobody use the definition "pop" to rock, but it is. Well, I didn't use it. The pop I meant was the "sing along" lightweight kind.

As I said before, this is not to be a discussion of what is pop and what isn't. It's about the inclusion (or not) of John Zorn in the Archives.

DallasBryan wrote: and rename the website to the AvantArchives!

Here Here!

I would think that bands such as Material (Memory
Serves) would be added before solo John Zorn
works.

Bill Laswell's first project, Material, with Fred Maher
on drums and Michael Beinhorn on electronic
keyboards, was a spin-off of Daevid Allen's band.
Their Memory Serves (1981), featuring Fred Frith,
Sonny Sharrock on guitar, Billy Bang on violin,
George Lewis on trombone and Henry Threadgill on
sax, documented Laswell's idea of austere funk and
jazz fusion.

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I think he's too far outside the progressive rock field. Saw him once with the "Nederlands Blazers Ensemble" (the Dutch wind instrument ensemble?) in a very avantgarde concert. That was quite an experience, but I think that he's "too far out". Or the formula should be stretched to "progressive music" in general.

Fantômas wrote: God... There are two kind of music: Classical and popular (pop as you may like to call it).

Actually, learned from the Mr Joren himself, there is Art-music and light music. Thát is the division in music. Classical is art, and pop is light. With jazz in the middle of the spectrum, as some jazzplayers are art (Zorn) and the others are light. But also, according to the Joren, to which I have to agree, prog is often more to the art side than jazz.

Oh and Joren, feel free to add this to your 'quotation' score

Fantomas, as you said, John Zorn is  Avant-Jazz-Metal-Chamber-Symphonic-Well-Everything. So, I agre with you that SOME OF HIS MUSIC belongs here, but a lot doesn't. So, as much as I love his music and asa much as I would really love to see a nice and clear discography of his music (nowhere else on the web, except for www.allmusic.com, maybe), I voted NO.