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Certif1ed 
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 13:36 |
So - easy choice!
Rate Camel, and include a little bit about what you do and don't like about the band's music (lets not be personal about the personell!).
You can subdivide into Bardens and post-Bardens era - and maybe list your top 5 Camel albums.
Hey - everyone likes Camel, don't they...?
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 14:49 |
OK I'll have a stab at this:
Premier League:- ELP,Crimson,Tull,Genesis,Yes,Floyd,Rush,Flower Kings,IQ,Spocks Beard,Eloy,Dream Theater, Marillion,Camel,UK,VDGG,Focus,Kayak, PFM,Par Lindh Project.
That's 20 bands by my reckoning.
ELP are Arsenal (of course ) with Keith Emerson as Thierry Henry,Greg Lake as Sol Campbell and Carl Palmer as Patrick Viera.
Camel are more like an Everton or a Bolton.Not one of the elite but good enough to be Premier division all the same.
Hope I havn't taken this thread too literally
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Dick Heath
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 14:55 |
And to stir it further :
whether Barclay James Harvest??
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 15:11 |
BJH = Wolverhampton Wonderers.
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Now is tomorrow afternoon
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Rain Dancer
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 16:44 |
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Premier League, i love all their albums specially concept ones like stationary traveller and snowgoose, imagine you compose a whole album inspired from a book !
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Never let go
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Easy Livin
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Posted: May 20 2004 at 17:08 |
Raggy,
I thought the Wanderers famous forward line was
Barclay James Wakeman
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 00:56 |
Camel has a couple of great albums and some weaker ones.
I like Andy's guitarplaying a lot. Most of the music doesn't sound too complicated , but very emotional. I have a slight problem with the vocals though. They often sound a bit dull.
As for rating them I'd say: 1st devision
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 03:21 |
I'm a Camel hooligan, but I must recognize that in the Premier League only Genesis, Yes, KC, PF and ELP can play. BTW... is there anybody here that can explain me why Rattin was kicked off in the match England-Argentina, World Cup 1966? 
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Posted: May 21 2004 at 11:01 |
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Hammar
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 08:19 |
I do not rate them in the same league as ELP, KC, Gentle Giant ,Yes, Genesis, PFM, etc. But, they are often in the play-offs in 1.division.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 08:42 |
Camel was my first experience with prog rock (besides Pink Floyd), I was absolutely blown away by the strong melodies on The Snow Goose.
Albums like Camel, Mirage, Moonmadness & Rain Dances are great as well. With albums like these Camel are absolute worthy in Premier League. I don't like the more recent recordings though. Nude perhaps is somewhat alright. The Single Factor is a disaster.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 12:40 |
 Marcelo wrote:
I'm a Camel hooligan, but I must recognize that in the Premier League only Genesis, Yes, KC, PF and ELP can play. BTW... is there anybody here that can explain me why Rattin was kicked off in the match England-Argentina, World Cup 1966? |
Was that the team that England manager Sir Alf Ramsay labelled as 'Animals'?? (or maybe it was Uruguay?) I presume by 'Kicked Off' you mean ''sent off''? I would assume for tackling that involved going for the man rather than the ball.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 13:17 |
richardh wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
I'm a Camel hooligan, but I must recognize that in the Premier League only Genesis, Yes, KC, PF and ELP can play. BTW... is there anybody here that can explain me why Rattin was kicked off in the match England-Argentina, World Cup 1966? |
Was that the team that England manager Sir Alf Ramsay labelled as 'Animals'?? (or maybe it was Uruguay?) I presume by 'Kicked Off' you mean ''sent off''? I would assume for tackling that involved going for the man rather than the ball.
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Mr. Ramsay, surely, never enjoyed Camel.
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Posted: May 22 2004 at 20:54 |
Their 4 or 5 first albums are genius.
The middle of their carreir is way weaker...
Their last albums (4) Wink, Rajaz, Harbour ans Dust... Are all 4 precious albums to me. Very touching music. Andy Latimer has more feeling in his solos than Guilmour.
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I Will Always Find You
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 02:51 |
Marcelo wrote:
richardh wrote:
Marcelo wrote:
I'm a Camel hooligan, but I must recognize that in the Premier League only Genesis, Yes, KC, PF and ELP can play. BTW... is there anybody here that can explain me why Rattin was kicked off in the match England-Argentina, World Cup 1966? |
Was that the team that England manager Sir Alf Ramsay labelled as 'Animals'?? (or maybe it was Uruguay?) I presume by 'Kicked Off' you mean ''sent off''? I would assume for tackling that involved going for the man rather than the ball.
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Mr. Ramsay, surely, never enjoyed Camel.
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Can't be sure of that
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 08:02 |
If you're not into Camel, you're not my friend!" CAMEL is the ultimate prog rock band - has always been, and will probably always be!
- Mikael Akerfelt
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 08:06 |
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 11:09 |
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Cheer up!! They'll be back next year!! Listen to some happy (?!!) prog..
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Posted: May 23 2004 at 11:37 |
Just noticed that "Scottish Division" appears below "Schoolboy league". Is that supposed to be funny? 
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