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Tom Ozric
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Topic: Cheeky Genesis? Posted: April 24 2015 at 18:45 |
^^ Yeah, well, that's really heavy, Mahn. I never interpreted the lyrics from that angle.
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Rednight
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Posted: April 24 2015 at 16:37 |
Green Shield Stamp wrote:
It's possible to see a sexual subtext in everything (Close to the Edge - the moment before orgasm; Thick as a Brick - an extreme erection etc). I know that this thread is just a p*ss take. But, if you look closely at the lyrics of Squonk. there does seem to be something going on.The opening line, 'Like father like son.' Possibly introduces a male sexual identity. The word father automatically connotes a sexual identity because man has to have sex to become a father (in the traditional sense). Saying the son is like the father therefore confers this sexual identity to the son. The song is therefore about sexual awakening.
'Not flesh nor fish nor bone' This is an obvious reference to female genitalia from a male point of view. It fits with Jacques Lacan's theories of castration complex (based on Freud's earlier theories). The vagina represents an absence and is therefore a symbol of castration. In the song the vagina is described in terms of what it is not (note the repetition of the negation).
'A red rag hangs from an open mouth' - The focus on the vagina becomes much more explicit here - the red rag is presumably a reference to the clitoris.
'Alive at both ends but a little dead in the middle' Is clearly a reference to an erection. The middle points to the groin area. The penis is now erect and its stiffness is corpse-like.
'A-tumbling and a-bumbling he will go'. <span style="line-height: 1.4;">The word tumble is a colloquialism for sex (as you will all know).</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">'Scared to be left on his own / Hasn't a, hasn't a friend to play with the Ugly Duckling' - Once he has discovered sex, there is now an insatiable desire. The hesitation here shows a typical pubescent stutter. Ugly Duckling is reference to self loathing (possibly our nascent lothario feels self contempt after indulging in masturbation).</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">'But if you don't stand up you don't stand a chance.' Clearly a reference to sexual virility.</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">'Go a little faster now, you might get there in time.' A build up to a sexual climax. 'get there' means to arrive, which is a synonym of 'come' (colloquialism for ejaculation).</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">And on it goes.....</span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;"> </span> <span style="line-height: 1.4;">One of the most obvious lines in the song is: 'The hunter enters the forest'. To 'enter' is a synonym for to 'penetrate'. The forest is a reference to pubic hair. It then goes on to say 'who can blow the huntsman's horn' one of the most obvious references to fellatio.</span>
There are so many such references in the song that it is impossible not to see a sexual subtext. And what about the title of the song itself, Squonk. This is clearly a blend of squelch (an onomatopoeic word echoing the noise of the sexual act) and bonk (a British colloquialism for sex). Yes the word Squonk clearly means squelchy bonk. No wonder it ends with 'a pool of bubbles and tears' (and probably lots of tissue too).
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: April 24 2015 at 15:51 |
It's possible to see a sexual subtext in everything (Close to the Edge - the moment before orgasm; Thick as a Brick - an extreme erection etc). I know that this thread is just a p*ss take. But, if you look closely at the lyrics of Squonk. there does seem to be something going on. The opening line, 'Like father like son.' Possibly introduces a male sexual identity. The word father automatically connotes a sexual identity because man has to have sex to become a father (in the traditional sense). Saying the son is like the father therefore confers this sexual identity to the son. The song is therefore about sexual awakening.
'Not flesh nor fish nor bone' This is an obvious reference to female genitalia from a male point of view. It fits with Jacques Lacan's theories of castration complex (based on Freud's earlier theories). The vagina represents an absence and is therefore a symbol of castration. In the song the vagina is described in terms of what it is not (note the repetition of the negation).
'A red rag hangs from an open mouth' - The focus on the vagina becomes much more explicit here - the red rag is presumably a reference to the clitoris.
'Alive at both ends but a little dead in the middle' Is clearly a reference to an erection. The middle points to the groin area. The penis is now erect and its stiffness is corpse-like.
'A-tumbling and a-bumbling he will go'. The word tumble is a colloquialism for sex (as you will all know).
'Scared to be left on his own / Hasn't a, hasn't a friend to play with the Ugly Duckling' - Once he has discovered sex, there is now an insatiable desire. The hesitation here shows a typical pubescent stutter. Ugly Duckling is reference to self loathing (possibly our nascent lothario feels self contempt after indulging in masturbation).
'But if you don't stand up you don't stand a chance.' Clearly a reference to sexual virility.
'Go a little faster now, you might get there in time.' A build up to a sexual climax. 'get there' means to arrive, which is a synonym of 'come' (colloquialism for ejaculation).
And on it goes.....
One of the most obvious lines in the song is: 'The hunter enters the forest'. To 'enter' is a synonym for to 'penetrate'. The forest is a reference to pubic hair. It then goes on to say 'who can blow the huntsman's horn' one of the most obvious references to fellatio.
There are so many such references in the song that it is impossible not to see a sexual subtext. And what about the title of the song itself, Squonk. This is clearly a blend of squelch (an onomatopoeic word echoing the noise of the sexual act) and bonk (a British colloquialism for sex). Yes the word Squonk clearly means squelchy bonk. No wonder it ends with 'a pool of bubbles and tears' (and probably lots of tissue too).
Edited by Green Shield Stamp - April 24 2015 at 15:55
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Roland113
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Posted: April 22 2015 at 16:40 |
Well this has been an eye opening thread. . . . and by eye opening, I'm of course referring to waxing the dolphin.
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: April 22 2015 at 15:49 |
One Direction
Carpet Crawlers
'There's only one direction / in the faces that I see....'
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Posted: April 22 2015 at 11:21 |
WHY BRING THIS BACK FROM THE DEPTHS OF HELL?
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Posted: April 22 2015 at 09:45 |
Talking of Genesis, which of their songs references a well-known boy band?
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Posted: October 13 2014 at 00:53 |
Really the sleeve explains it all
In the front sleeve everyrthing is magic
- The old lady looks at the mirror and she is a beautiful maiden - The crook from RA&B is still free surrounded by an inept cop
- The kids are in a a magical word of tales - The Squonk is alive - The Mad Man Moon is throwing magic powder
But in the inner sleeve everything is a trick of the eye
- The old lady looks at the mirror and sees an old lady - The kids are bored - The crook is captured - The moon is covered by clouds - The Squonk is dead
Very poetic if you think it
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 15:31 |
This guy is a joke.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 15:24 |
Matthew _Gill wrote:
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Unquiet Slumbers for Mr Steve H
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: October 06 2014 at 15:13 |
Hackett not happy....
....My wife said I was a fool for tweeting this thread to him.
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Rednight
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Posted: September 08 2014 at 11:03 |
The C.I.A. has been called in to decipher this thread.
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dr wu23
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Posted: September 02 2014 at 15:41 |
Uh...this whole thread was a joke from the get go......
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Posted: September 02 2014 at 13:10 |
I'd argue that every song Peter ever wrote was about sex, even Biko (the politics of power, oppression, punishment.....relationships, sex!). The post-Gabriel Genesis had the musical chops but lacked that visionary lyricist, so the boys just did their best Peter impressions and carried on with an ear to music, not lyrics. I just don't think Phil, Tony and Mike had it in them to write a whole album of double entedre and deep meaning. Music, sure; lyrics, no.
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I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: September 02 2014 at 03:49 |
Get on my stallion and we'll ride (oops, wrong band.......)
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: September 02 2014 at 03:11 |
Hey OP, what does "chocolate surprise" mean?
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Posted: September 01 2014 at 23:53 |
The weather was hard, but so were the men!
His horses were edgy, sensing trouble ahead, But the trouble didn't start till the men were in bed Um... yeah :D Both from Ballad of Big.
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Posted: July 22 2014 at 10:15 |
All rock and roll is about sex - quote unquote. This is not breaking news. This thread proves nothing.
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Matthew _Gill
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Posted: June 15 2014 at 14:20 |
dr wu23 wrote:
I think if anyone needs to get laid...it's probably Matthew.
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dr wu23
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Posted: June 10 2014 at 23:15 |
I think if anyone needs to get laid...it's probably Matthew.
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