whos first Stoner rock Kyuss or Soundgarden

HarbouringTheSoul wrote: As great as Soundgarden are, they have no relevance in the evolution of rock music. At least not yet.

they are sighted with Faith No More as the first alternative metal band they influenced Metallica on the Black Album, they influenced Kyuss, Alice in Chains, Deftones, Dillinger Escape Plan, Between the Buried and Me and Clutch, they are the second band after Melvins to have drop D and drop B and drop C tuned guitars in rock, they are the most technical band in grunge and have insane times sigs, which indicates a link towards math rock, and KIm Thaiyl is probably the most imitated guitarist in 90s alternative metal scene,  and in slow played metal, Kim Thayle is very important to the way people approached guitar in the 90s that weren't shred guitarists 

Edited by aginor - December 20 2012 at 09:27

As great as Soundgarden are, they have no relevance in the evolution of rock music. At least not yet.

And this whole "stoner rock" is just a scam: back in the times, it was heavy rock.
I remember reading some metal magazines calling Monster Magnet "psychaedelical heavy rock", nothing more!

Soundgarden is to heavy and bleak to be only alternative rock 

Edited by aginor - December 19 2012 at 10:18

aginor wrote: they created doom not stoner

in what way is this not stoner metal? I believe Sabbath laid down the blueprints for stoner metal just like they did for heavy metal, doom metal, and metal in general.

Judas Priest ... Rocka Rolla is a fantastic stoner pioneer, please check it! 

Black Sabbath