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richardh
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Topic: Toccata VS Toccata Posted: October 11 2012 at 01:23 |
Dellinger wrote:
ELP should have covered Bach's Toccata, it just screams to be played by them. |
I guess Keith Emerson did Bach 'to death' in his days with The Nice and wanted to to leave it behind. That said there was that lovely use of Bach on The Only Way.
Edited by richardh - October 11 2012 at 01:23
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 10 2012 at 18:01 |
ELP should have covered Bach's Toccata, it just screams to be played by them.
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richardh
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Posted: October 10 2012 at 01:39 |
digdug wrote:
ELP or Sky ! |
It would have made a more interesting poll for sure. I like Sky's Toccata although of course that was Bach not Ginastera.
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Posted: October 09 2012 at 15:04 |
The ELP version for sure. The Mekong Delta version is terrible, sorry.
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Posted: October 09 2012 at 14:51 |
ELP or Sky !
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Posted: October 09 2012 at 05:47 |
Ginastera's. LOL ! ELP of course.
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richardh
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Posted: October 08 2012 at 15:17 |
I think I read somewhere that only one album of Ginastera's music had ever been released in the UK. ELP doing a version of it was not exactly meddling with the classics. Any other version by a band was always going to a copy of the ELP adapation. Gerards is also very similar to Mekong Delta although at least it has some rabid drumming thats a lot of fun. No Carl Palmer but I once saw the guy live with Ars Nova in London when he broke the gong for a Pink Floyd tribute band. Perhaps one of the funniest and most memorable things I ever saw at a live show.
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Ommadawn
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Posted: October 08 2012 at 13:27 |
The Dark Elf wrote:
ELP adapted Ginastera. Mekong Delta copied ELP's version. Palmer's drumming is far better and ELP has a far more original take on the...ummm....original. |
Exactly!
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richardh
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Posted: October 07 2012 at 04:41 |
There's also a version on the Magna Carta tribute featuring Jordan Rudess and Japanese outfit Gerard also give a suitable battering on the Keyboards Triangle tribute album.
ELP's version is one of my favourite things by ELP and any prog band for that matter. It has a delicious production particularly the percussion sounds that are embedded deep in the mix on the quieter moments. Its a work of art imo.Ginastera loved it of course and remarked 'terrible , terrible' when he first heard it during a lunch at his house with Keith Emerson. Ginastera's wife thankfully spoke some English and pointed out to a slightly perplexed Keith Emerson that he was complimenting it!
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 20:51 |
ELP adapted Ginastera. Mekong Delta copied ELP's version. Palmer's drumming is far better and ELP has a far more original take on the...ummm....original.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 20:44 |
Voted for ELP in the end. What a salad!
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 20:40 |
Dellinger wrote:
The Delta one, even though it is somewhat heavier, isn't nearly as Crazy as ELP's one. |
Yeah, the MD version is more tame in comparison.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 14:33 |
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Dellinger
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 14:08 |
Only just heard the Delta version, so I might have needed a little more getting used to it, but I like better the ELP one. The Delta one, even though it is somewhat heavier, isn't nearly as Crazy as ELP's one.
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 14:00 |
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Horizons wrote:
Jaga Jazzist anyone? |
Great but completely different song. Never heard the Sky version. |
I still prefer it.
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 13:57 |
Horizons wrote:
Jaga Jazzist anyone? |
Great but completely different song. Never heard the Sky version.
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 13:54 |
yep.
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 13:20 |
How about Sky?
anyway...elp
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 13:13 |
Jaga Jazzist anyone?
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Posted: October 06 2012 at 13:04 |
I've always thought that Toccata sounds like a salad....
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