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Trotsky 
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 Topic: PFM-Storia Di Un Minuto.....So What?
Posted: July 27 2005 at 10:54 |
 Snow Dog wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Well I prefer "The World Became The World" myself! |
Well
I haven't heard the English versions but isn't The World Became The
World a rewritten version of Impressioni di Settembre? Which is my
favourite moment off the first album ... help me out, SD ... I'm a
little confused here ...
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Yes it is the same song re performed with anglo lyrics
And El Festa is Celebration on Photos Of Ghosts. Any more anyone?
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What I meant is ... it sounds like you really enjoy The World Became
The World which is Impressioni di Settembre ... but the whole thread
starts off with you saying you can't see what's so great about the
Storia Di Un Minuto album ...
As an aside, Fitzcarraldo has done a great job explaining which
Italian track becomes which Engligh language one ... in his PFM reviews
on the main site ...
Thank you 
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OK I understand. I meant that the album TWBTW is my favourite. The
actual song TWBTW is to me, not one of the best on that album! |
OK ... just clicked ... 
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 06:15 |
Tony R wrote:
Remember "Storia.." is a debut album! Compare it to Genesis' or Yes' debut,or Rush's!
It is a stunning statement and achievement as a debut album.
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All those debuts,besides Genesis are excellent!
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Tony R
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 06:00 |
Remember "Storia.." is a debut album! Compare it to Genesis' or Yes' debut,or Rush's!
It is a stunning statement and achievement as a debut album.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 27 2005 at 05:52 |
Trotsky wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Well I prefer "The World Became The World" myself! |
Well I haven't heard the English versions but isn't The World Became The World a rewritten version of Impressioni di Settembre? Which is my favourite moment off the first album ... help me out, SD ... I'm a little confused here ...
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Yes it is the same song re performed with anglo lyrics
And El Festa is Celebration on Photos Of Ghosts. Any more anyone?
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What I meant is ... it sounds like you really enjoy The World Became The World which is Impressioni di Settembre ... but the whole thread starts off with you saying you can't see what's so great about the Storia Di Un Minuto album ...
As an aside, Fitzcarraldo has done a great job explaining which Italian track becomes which Engligh language one ... in his PFM reviews on the main site ...
Thank you
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OK I understand. I meant that the album TWBTW is my favourite. The actual song TWBTW is to me, not one of the best on that album!
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Trotsky
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 22:46 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Trotsky wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Well I prefer "The World Became The World" myself! |
Well I haven't heard the English versions but isn't The World Became The World a rewritten version of Impressioni di Settembre? Which is my favourite moment off the first album ... help me out, SD ... I'm a little confused here ...
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Yes it is the same song re performed with anglo lyrics
And El Festa is Celebration on Photos Of Ghosts. Any more anyone?
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What I meant is ... it sounds like you really enjoy The World Became The World which is Impressioni di Settembre ... but the whole thread starts off with you saying you can't see what's so great about the Storia Di Un Minuto album ...
As an aside, Fitzcarraldo has done a great job explaining which Italian track becomes which Engligh language one ... in his PFM reviews on the main site ...
Thank you
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 12:40 |
Trotsky wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Well I prefer "The World Became The World" myself! |
Well I haven't heard the English versions but isn't The World Became The World a rewritten version of Impressioni di Settembre? Which is my favourite moment off the first album ... help me out, SD ... I'm a little confused here ...
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Yes it is the same song re performed with anglo lyrics
And El Festa is Celebration on Photos Of Ghosts. Any more anyone?
Edited by Snow Dog
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Trotsky
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 12:20 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Well I prefer "The World Became The World" myself! |
Well I haven't heard the English versions but isn't The World Became
The World a rewritten version of Impressioni di Settembre? Which is my
favourite moment off the first album ... help me out, SD ... I'm a
little confused here ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:54 |
Well I still prefer it! 
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arcer
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:47 |
you're feckin' mad! - all that sinfield nonsense. He's the most rubbihs person in prog! 
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:39 |
Well I prefer "The World Became The World" myself!
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Posted: July 26 2005 at 11:10 |
For me Per un Amico and L'Isola di Niente are much better than Storia. I find Storia to be a bit disjointed. It sounds like they were trying way too hard to cram too much in but without any great idea of where they were going.
In fact, I actually thought it was their second album, as it seemed to suffer from classic second album syndrome - over-ambitious, over-reaching and over-wrought.
That's not to say I think it's crap. I really like it, it's just that Per Un Amico and L'Isola are much more solid, fully realised albums.
Listen to Il Banchetto from Per Un Amico and I defy you not to be blown away, especially by the little synth/guitar interlude in the middle and the piano solo. Mega
Likewise with the title track from L'Isola, the opening chords' arrival after the choral section is fantastic - so much energy and dynamism! And the end section of Via Lumiere just rocks.
My advice would be to not let the debut colour your perceptions completely - give albums 2 and 3 a chance, they will win you over.
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Trotsky
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Posted: July 21 2005 at 00:32 |
It's my favourite Italian prog album so far ... and one of my favourites of all time ...
The synth chorus (and then that explosive double synth moment) in Impressioni di Settembre is what really sold me at first.
I also love Mussida's lyrical acoustic guitar playing in Dove ... Quando ...
By now, I find virtually all the tracks to be astounding, Fiesta, Hans, etc ... and even though Storia Di Un Minuto is more pastoral and (the also brilliant) Per Un Amico is more progressive album ... it is Storia that occupies the special place in my heart ...
It's also the first Italian prog album I play to novices ... works a charm every time ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Humanizzimo
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 14:10 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Humanizzimo wrote:
I am searching for PFM albums and i would like to know...
Wich one is better, Per um amico or Storia de um minuto??/?
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You'll get different answers from different people for that one. Ipersonally like Per Un Amico much more than Storia. |
Tanx for your opinion
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 12:47 |
Humanizzimo wrote:
I am searching for PFM albums and i would like to know...
Wich one is better, Per um amico or Storia de um minuto??/?
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You'll get different answers from different people for that one. Ipersonally like Per Un Amico much more than Storia.
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Humanizzimo
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 12:41 |
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I am searching for PFM albums and i would like to know...
Wich one is better, Per um amico or Storia de um minuto??/?
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 11:38 |
I prefer Storia to Amico!
But as far as symphonic Italian Prog , I think PFM is over-rated. I much prefer Quella Vieccha Locanda's two album or Celeste's Principe de un Giorno.
Picchio Dal Pozzo , Perigeo , Pierrot Lunaire and Arti E Mestieri are my fave for the rest.
I am not a Le Orme or Banco DMS fan! Never got into those.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 10:40 |
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Italian Prog.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 10:33 |
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^ Which paticular iceberg is that then?
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The Hemulen
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 10:23 |
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Per Un Amico is far better. Both albums are just the tip of a marvellous proggy iceberg though.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: July 19 2005 at 08:55 |
Me too, Snow. Funny, I was asking myself the exact same question ten minutes ago when I saw someone mentioning Storia as one of the best debut albums. Lots of people seem to really like that album and I don't get it either. For me, the umbilical cord to early King Crimson is a bit too obvious. And it just doesn't... well, I'm not going to be a parrot.
But... I really like Italian prog, and I really like Per Un Amico and L'Isola Di Niente. Those albums are really classic albums for me. L'Isola would be in my all time top 3 of best prog albums. Storia is not on the same level, for me.
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PFM-Storia Di Un Minuto.....So What?
.......I do like it. It doesn't "grab" me though!