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Posted: April 01 2012 at 12:23

How about these:

Twisted Into Form

Spiral Architect (not jazzy, but complex for sure)

Blotted Science

Behold...The Arctopus (WHOA!)

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Posted: March 18 2012 at 12:48

tamijo wrote:

Great album.

Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.

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Posted: March 18 2012 at 10:16

^ +1 on all of those, but particularly Trevor Dunn's trio, which is fantastic.

There be dragons

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Posted: March 18 2012 at 09:58

Spastic Ink's 'ink complete'

Trevor Dunn's Trio-Convulsant - Debutantes & centipedes

John Zorn projects :

under his name -

Spy vs Spy

The crucible

and with Painkiller and Naked City

Praxis - Sacrifist

Ahleuchatistas - What you will

Doctor Nerve - Skin

Ruins - Refusal Fossile

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Posted: March 18 2012 at 00:06

colorofmoney91 wrote:

You should try listening to Zu and Ephel Duath.

I loved Zu, util I saw them live in Israel. One hour of the strongest bass distortion. THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SHOW. When it ended my muscles felt tired like I've been working out, because everything was shaking. I still blame the new drummer. It's a shame, because Carboniferous is an absolutely outstanding album, I was just too traumatized to be able to listen to it again.

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Posted: March 17 2012 at 21:45

Matraz is absolutelly seminal when considering jazz metal.

Fredrik Thirdendal`s Special Defects, despite being quite difficult to get one`s hands on, is possibly the best jazz metal album out there.

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 14:00

I am surprised that miRthkon have not been brought up, I think they are pretty much exactly what you are looking for...

Check out this track, then check out their album "Vehicle" (also available for streaming on their bandcamp)

http://mirthkon.bandcamp.com/track/kharms-way

http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=24274

Edited by TheGazzardian - March 15 2012 at 14:01

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 13:55

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 13:50

Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 13:32

Random Mullet! They use sax!

PA: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=6718

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 08:46

aginor wrote:

Planet X album Quantum if your brain is not blown of you sculp by its complexity then maybe your eyes are bulging by its pure force, and your hair is blown of, the song Alian Hip HIp gives you a healthy brain exersise

Haha love it ! Quantum is amazing. Virgil Donati is mindblowing

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 07:40

Planet X album Quantum if your brain is not blown of you sculp by its complexity then maybe your eyes are bulging by its pure force, and your hair is blown of, the song Alian Hip HIp gives you a healthy brain exersise

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Posted: March 15 2012 at 06:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqI-BVEk5ik&feature=related

A couple of recordings voted as the best jazz rock fusion of the 90's, which also are both pretty heavy:

Hellborg Buckethead &Shrieve's acoustic jazz fusion album Octave of The Holy Innocents. Conrad Schrenk's Extravaganza's Save The Robots (imagine Steve Vai with jazz chords with a brass rock backing)........

Edited by Dick Heath - March 15 2012 at 06:41

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Posted: March 13 2012 at 11:39

Free Form Funky Fregs ie. Jamaaladen Tacuma, Vernon Reid & G. Calvin Weston. Maybe too funk?

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Posted: March 13 2012 at 11:03

Panzerballett and Morglbl are good places to start, for both the heaviness they introduce into their jazz rock and the humour both bands have. Only yesterday, listening to Tony Williams Lifetime's 1969 recording Turn It Over and reminded of some early JR heaviness - which must had the jazz-purists then tearing their hair out. Jonas Hellborg Group's e** and the subsequent excellent albums by another heavy Hammond organ & bass band in the form of Niacin, may tick the box - Elephant9 ditto. Johansson Brothers' albums Fission (with Mike Stern and Shawn Lane each on a couple of tracks) and Heavy Machinery (with Allan Holdsworth). And then of course there is the Canadian band Heavy Metal Jazz Concepts. And some of Mats Morgan Band's output e.g. Live. Gongzilla - for instance with guest Gary Husband drumming on Thrive gives them a particularly heavy edge. David Fuiczynski with and without the Screaming Headless Torsos has an original take on heaviness. Then there is the obscure British heavy jazz fusion band Network, that has fincluded some interesting guest players, e.g. Jan Hammer, Jack Bruce, Larry Coryell, Hugh Hopper, across various of nearly 10 albums.

**Same band line up plus vocalist Gary Cooper, known as The Shining Path recorded No Other World, an interesting take on what jazz musicians can do when let loose on heavy death metal - check out the album's title track.

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Posted: March 13 2012 at 10:17

I'd consider those 2 releases, Red especially, to have helped set the template for modern prog metal.

http://martinwebb.bandcamp.com

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Posted: March 12 2012 at 18:14

spknoevl wrote:

There certainly were a number of avante garde jazzy moments on some of the 70s King Crimson albums. Check out Starless and Bible Black or Red.

lol metal what is that

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Posted: March 12 2012 at 12:09

Panzerballet is a fusion trio with some metallic ideas. It's good modern fusion.

Ohm: is better, the first lead guitarist of Megadeth Chris Poland had actually been recruited out of a fusion band to play, and now that he's late middle age does a heavy fusion product that's really good. Their debut album is very good.

Ephel Duath's Painter's Pallette is the best example of fusing modern extreme metal with jazz in a true 50/50 split.

Cynic is hard to categorize, they are a death / space / jazz metal outfit that is just amazing in a sound that really is just their own. Their first album is more death-like, their newest is more ethereal. Their comeback, TRACED IN AIR, I count as one of the best albums ever made.

Toby Driver has many projects and this may be where you find what you're looking for. The first was a full band called Maudlin of the Well and this was actually a full band that Toby led. Now he works within a group called Kayo Dot that is really just a solo project with various helper musicians. This is about as avant as it gets. The first "Choirs of the Eye" and last "Gamma Knife" are the heaviest.

Tosin Abasi's new TRAM project is also amazing.

I could go on but that's probably enough for now.

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Posted: March 12 2012 at 12:00