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    Posted: February 01 2012 at 17:36

We don;t need two thread for this, please continue here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=84646 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 16:45
^Scarsick is a pile of garbage.

Anyway, I will remain skeptical of this until April 1st. It's very strange that they held off such an announcement until a month before release, and announce it in such a plain manner, as a simple news post on the website and a couple Youtube vids. If it's real, the album must have been in the works for a long time and should be all completed by now.  I would expect promo videos, interviews, and a website re-design months in advance. Also, such a prank seems in line with Ian's sense of humor. I do hope it's real and a great album, but it something just doesn't seem right here. If those preview vids are anything to go by, it shouldn't be as bad a sequel as Scarsick. Operation Mindcrime II would probably be a better analogy.LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 15:37
Scarsick was great. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 14:01
Son of a bitch Ian. Just release an album and we'll be happy. Now you went and risked making another Scarsick, which retroactively sullies the reputation of The Perfect Element Part II.

I hope you know what you're doing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:59
Come on now folks, give it a chance! It could end up being fantastic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:32
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I was going to say something like 'I'll give you the Benefit of the doubt there' but realised being witty isn't my forte.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 13:07
Originally posted by Neu!mann Neu!mann wrote:

Sounds to me like Mr. Anderson is definitely Living In The Past...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 12:51
Sounds to me like Mr. Anderson is definitely Living In The Past...
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:21


"...and voila! They all fell for it at ProgArchives... that's a tenner you owe me, Barre!"



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:15
Originally posted by Warthur Warthur wrote:

Steve Wilson being involved and the project being inspired by a conversation with Derek Shulman of Gentle Giant fame ought to be good signs. But I'm left unconvinced. The bit which keeps coming back to me is on one hand, the resurrection of the Jethro Tull name with so many key players absent (including Barre, who granted wasn't a member of the original lineup but has been key to the Tull sound ever since he joined), and on top of that the resurrection of the Thick as a Brick name for the sake of a sequel.

I mean, the concept of the album could be interesting - a piece in which Gerald Bostock looks back on his life and ponders whether he's manage to live his life according to the ideas he set out in his youth, and (if he concludes that he didn't) whether that's actually a personal failing of his or simply a matter of time and experience giving him a different perspective, now that could be interesting territory to explore. But having seen so, so many instances lately of people putting stuff out simply to trade on the reputation of past successes I'm wary. I'm especially wary since, as so many others have pointed out, the original was meant to be a spoof - so the sequel risks becoming either on the one hand a spoof of a spoof, and too self-referential to be interesting with it, or on the other hand taking the whole thing much more seriously than the band did for the original TAAB and so completely failing to recapture what made it so special in the first place.


Excellent post.

Mind you...

Originally posted by Infadous Infadous wrote:

Or, the whole thing could be a big joke, with the punchline coming April 1st.




You know, Infadous, this would not surprise me one iota

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 11:09
The only good that could come of this would be to somehow include a clever lyric about someone being "thick as a brick too". 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 10:16
I should add that I will be giving it a listen and giving it a fair chance. It might surprise me. But that's precisely what it'd be if it's a great follow-up to the original: one hell of a surprise. It'd be the odd man out in so many other misguided sequel projects.

Then again, misguided sequels might be precisely what the album spoofs. A piece about Gerald Bostock discovering that what's endearing and precocious coming from a small boy is just plain juvenile and irritating when it's coming from a 50-year-old could have potential for some laughs.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 10:03
This will be so, so, so, so, so bad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:14
I'm all ears.  He seemed sincere in his website release, and I generally consider Anderson to be a guy not prone to boneheaded decisions.  Sequels generally have the smell of "publicity stunt", and it's hard to buy the "I just felt like this sequel was brewing inside of me and I had to let it out" story.  But if anyone could pull it off, I'll give Ian the benefit of the doubt.

Edited by HolyMoly - February 01 2012 at 09:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 09:05
Or, the whole thing could be a big joke, with the punchline coming April 1st.  If that was the case, that would be brilliant.

If it's not, then I agree with all your concerns.  This just seems like a bad idea.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:58
I'm pretty concerned myself.

I mean, Steve Wilson being involved and the project being inspired by a conversation with Derek Shulman of Gentle Giant fame ought to be good signs. But I'm left unconvinced. The bit which keeps coming back to me is on one hand, the resurrection of the Jethro Tull name with so many key players absent (including Barre, who granted wasn't a member of the original lineup but has been key to the Tull sound ever since he joined), and on top of that the resurrection of the Thick as a Brick name for the sake of a sequel.

I mean, the concept of the album could be interesting - a piece in which Gerald Bostock looks back on his life and ponders whether he's manage to live his life according to the ideas he set out in his youth, and (if he concludes that he didn't) whether that's actually a personal failing of his or simply a matter of time and experience giving him a different perspective, now that could be interesting territory to explore. But having seen so, so many instances lately of people putting stuff out simply to trade on the reputation of past successes I'm wary. I'm especially wary since, as so many others have pointed out, the original was meant to be a spoof - so the sequel risks becoming either on the one hand a spoof of a spoof, and too self-referential to be interesting with it, or on the other hand taking the whole thing much more seriously than the band did for the original TAAB and so completely failing to recapture what made it so special in the first place.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:52
I'm pretty skeptical about this, but I'll reserve judgment until I can hear it.  However, creating a sequel to a classic album, many years later, is often a recipe for disaster.  On the other hand, Eloy did a passable job with Ocean 2, though it is nowhere near as good an album as the original.  The issue of Ian's vocals, is however, a big one.  We'll just have to wait and see.  At least with Steve Wilson doing the mixing, we know the sound quality will be pristine. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 08:40
Steven Wilson has mixed the new Album!

"I recently had the pleasure of mixing the new Ian Anderson / Jethro Tull album, which is a follow up to the classic Thick as a Brick album from 1972. TAAB2 is very much in the tradition of the first album, a continuous 54 minute concept piece with a similar musical palette and style. It's just been officially announced for release in April as a CD/DVD (including a 5.1 mix and stereo in high res), more details on the Tull website. I also completed mixes for a 40th anniversary surround sound edition of the original Thick as a Brick, though not sure when that is coming out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2012 at 06:54
Eh, you can count me in the camp that thinks this probably won't turn out well.  Also wondering if Adams deliberately called it a squeal and not sequel. LOL
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