Dream Theater - "A Dramatic Turn Of Events"

Sometimes I think Honor Thy Father is the best song on ToT. It is certainly one of the best songs on ToT; up there with This Dying Soul, Endless Sacrifice, and In The Name Of God.

I could never give ADToE .......based on the definition in the PA for ratings, it misses too many marks, and even my own rating system would not allow it. I can listen to SC without skipping songs due to the epicness of In the Presence PT 1/2. Prophets of War is my only quiver with SC.....but I just turn the volume down usually.

darkshade wrote: Mine looks like: Train Of Thought ***** Octavarium ***** Systematic Chaos  ***** Black Clouds and Silver Linings ***** Dramatic Turn Of Events *****

JS19 wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Train Of Thought ***** Octavarium ***** Systematic Chaos ***** Black Clouds and Silver Linings ***** Dramatic Turn Of Events ***** .....something like that. I'd go: Train Of Thought ***** Octavarium ***** Systematic Chaos  ***** Black Clouds and Silver Linings ***** Dramatic Turn Of Events *****

Mine looks like:

Snow Dog wrote: Train Of Thought ***** Octavarium ***** Systematic Chaos ***** Black Clouds and Silver Linings ***** Dramatic Turn Of Events ***** .....something like that.

Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Opinions, guys. For example, for me ToT is th worst album they released   I don't understand this post..... I think.....I think....that he is saying that all we are posting are our opinions (we know that, doesn't really need stating) and then as an example he gives his (wrong) opinion on an album we are not discussing. For me hearing Train of Thoughts is like hearing DT covering Metallica and that IS NOT better that A Dramatic, no way.

Ytse_Jam wrote: Snow Dog wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Opinions, guys. For example, for me ToT is th worst album they released   I don't understand this post..... I think.....I think....that he is saying that all we are posting are our opinions (we know that, doesn't really need stating) and then as an example he gives his (wrong) opinion on an album we are not discussing. For me hearing Train of Thoughts is like hearing DT covering Metallica and that IS NOT better that A Dramatic, no way.

ADTOE is my first DT, actually I haven't heard any of their previous albums ... This will change, I'm trying to decide if Score would be the best one to continue ...

CCVP, you seem to have a lot of problems with the making-of ADTOE more than the actual music itself.

Besides Testimony 2 (which is a great album (just as bad as Lifeline???)) Mike's recent projects haven't gotten me excited. Even the new MMPLM (Flying Colors) album is now lower on my priority list (Pop/alternative with prog tendencies)

Catcher10 wrote: I agree with a lot of this.....So many people were beyond excited at the release of ADToE, that in some places it was like a dry hump for me.....I skip thru a lot of the album. I've said before at how I get bored less than half way thru say Outcry, and even when they played that live it was a bore. We, as fans, really have no idea at how disrupted the band was after Portnoy decided to leave, and the krapp that followed. I can imagine the disruption of just auditioning a new drummer and how that may have turned their world upside down for months. Then, to me, to rush and release a new album with a new drummer, and reports are that Mangini was not even in NY for most of the studio work, all his parts were done separate and via email......mehhhh....I for one would have put more effort into the whole project. I just think LaBrie was looking to move on and get an album out to put something in between them and the Portnoy issue. Part of me has always agreed with the original Portnoy arguement.......Dream Theater needed a break. I still think they need one.......I'm sure their families would appreciate it too.   I still think it is a 3.5 album, nowhere close to BC&SL, SFAM or SDOIT. I really don't know what would have changed had Mangini been physically present for the whole process, I mean he certainly does not command the production/creation process like Portnoy had done...I guess time will tell.   I'm actually more interested in what Portnoy will do in 2012 than what DT will do in 2013.

I don't  know, his projects so far were not much better to my ears. . . . Adrenaline Mob was a snorefest, Neal Morse's Testimony 2 is hellish to say the least (as bad or worse than Lifeline; I am VERY surprised to see it being so highly regarded), etc.

And don't forget that LaBrie did most, if not all of his vocal work in Canada, so only Rudess, Petrucci and Myung were actually in the studio wile the album was in the making. This only adds to my negative stance towards LaBrie, really, because, let's face it, there is not anything special with the singing and he did a whole lot of drama to be able to do his thing in Canada, away from the rest of the band, for the album to have a final result much like the one we have in every othe release since Six Degrees.

Snow Dog wrote: Catcher10 wrote: Ytse_Jam wrote: Opinions, guys. For example, for me ToT is th worst album they released   I don't understand this post..... I think.....I think....that he is saying that all we are posting are our opinions (we know that, doesn't really need stating) and then as an example he gives his (wrong) opinion on an album we are not discussing.

lol, indeed.


Edited by CCVP - December 19 2011 at 17:08