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Yes!: The Beatles' I Want You which is also their most prog-gish.
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Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Prog Disco exists, why not Prog Blues.
But Prog Polka, I'm not sure if that exists yet.
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Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

Prog Disco exists, why not Prog Blues.
But Prog Polka, I'm not sure if that exists yet.
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Prog Disco exists, why not Prog Blues.
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Sweet Maree and Mercury Blues, both from Fly Like An Eagle the album (1976) by Steve Miller Band, are beautiful examples of proggy blues.
Also, s/t debut from 1968 by Rhinoceros, s/t debut from 1969 by Blind Faith and so on.
 
There were a lot of progressive blues actually.


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I haven't followed the discussion at all but a forgotten band from the seventies called Stray Dog might fit the bill. Snuffy Walden was the guitarist and they were on ELP's Manticore label. The debut is worth checking out. Also I'm sure Blodywn Pig have been mentioned but they would also be my idea of 'progressive blues'.
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

There are also many today's bands making good things in 4 bars even if they are not called blues. A.p.a.t.t. is a little example of avant music with blues inside. Then if we think to Pink Floyd and their today's followers like Mostly Autumn or RPWL, how can we deny the blues roots of prog? Only because Genesis didn't much blues sticking on British folk?


This is a very good viewpoint and one that brings several questions to mind. I like your observation in reference to today's bands. That is totally evident with artists on the Cuneiform label. Maybe not so much during the 80's ...but I know that in recent years the "avant music" with a Blues inside is circulating mostly on the underground music scene.
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If there's an influence, it is expressed in some way in the final producr, otherwise how can you say that there's an influence?
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Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

There are also many today's bands making good things in 4 bars even if they are not called blues. A.p.a.t.t. is a little example of avant music with blues inside. Then if we think to Pink Floyd and their today's followers like Mostly Autumn or RPWL, how can we deny the blues roots of prog? Only because Genesis didn't much blues sticking on British folk?

This is exactly what i am talking about.  You are confusing the blues influence on rock with prog incorporating blues.
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There are also many today's bands making good things in 4 bars even if they are not called blues. A.p.a.t.t. is a little example of avant music with blues inside. Then if we think to Pink Floyd and their today's followers like Mostly Autumn or RPWL, how can we deny the blues roots of prog? Only because Genesis didn't much blues sticking on British folk?
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Much of what is going on in this post stems from ignorance as to what the blues is and a depressing trend of labeling everything that we like as progressive.

Start by remembering that rock and roll grew out of the blues originally.  There will always be an echo of the blues in prog rock as long as the rock is still in it.  I have seen several posters cite the resurgence of interest in the blues in the late '60's early '70's as examples of "blues prog," based probably on the most unfortunate idea that this website has promoted Led Zeppelin as a prog act in order to increase web traffic.  Clapton, The Rolling Stones, LZ and all did rehabilitate rock by going back to the well of blues. Rock, people, not prog.  I could make a better case that Jimi Hendrix made progressive blues in his few proggish experiments.

As for groups that specifically integrated blues and progressive rock, Captain Beefheart is the obvious one, especially since the good Captain takes at least as much inspiration from the Delta as from Chicago.  As for the mainstream popular prog bands, Jethro Tull probably came closest to integrating blues and prog on a couple albums.  
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But then there is the existence of a crowd of people who feel that Blues could never be connected to the style of Prog. Their opinion always points out that 4 bar Blues is boring and that there is only so much you can do with 4 chords repeatedly. That you can only focus on the pentatonic scale and never play outside the chords with chromatic passages and that alone makes Blues a limited style of music and specifically in the improvisation department. This is totally incorrect. The reason they feel this way is because their exposure to the Blues was probably played by lame musicians that refused to go outside the melody or chord structure. If you pay more close attention to some of the female pianist's from the 30's and 40's, you might make a connection to the style you're missing. There are thousands of Blues recordings in the world and many important ones still haven't made it on to cd, but investigating the more obscure ones may prove to be worthwhile when considering that many people feel this way.
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Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 12:06
Maybe some people haven't noticed, but Todd Rundgren played Blues riffs along with Blues oriented string bending for many years and added that element into many of his more progressive songs/pieces.

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Robin Trower: Bridge Of Sighs. If the title track isn't prog blues, then I don't know what is.
 
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Points: 20623 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 09:47
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Probably mentioned before and I haven't read each page of this thread...but Spooky Tooth would be ideal candidates for a touch of Prog Blues. Also the band Juicy Lucy seemed to enter progressive areas throughout their first 3 albums. 
They are listed here as proto prog /prog rock so it makes sense  they would have  some elements of prog blues in their music also.
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Robin Trower: Bridge Of Sighs. If the title track isn't prog blues, then I don't know what is.
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