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    Posted: March 02 2013 at 11:26
I love Pendragon but their lyrics tend to be rather "flowery"...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 02 2013 at 11:03
Not all rap is mindless crap. There are intelligent rappers out there. Look at Common or Lupe Fiasco.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2013 at 16:14
See, the 118th reason for liking the majestic genre of fusion: for the most part the musicians keep their oral cavities shut and concentrate on their flutes 'n' lutes, so to speak. 

(unless you prefer to spend your life trying to find the non-existing hidden messages in Siberian Khatru and Creator Has a Master Tape). 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2013 at 13:43
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Lyrical content eh? Apart from Neal Morse's preaching most prog has adequate lyrical content and covers far more topics than typical pop - which is some geezer singing about some girls eyes and heart when he's really just interested in her tits and fanny......or some bint singing about how she's in love now she;s found out the size of his wallet.....
Gangsta rap is about shooting people...and country and western is about snakes with tits....running off with his best friend when he's trying to get the harvest in with a broken tractor......Or am I just being just to sterotypical ??

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2013 at 15:19
Hi,
 
I think that we have bad listening habits a lot more than we do in appreciating individuality in lyrics! To the point that we think that the top ten's lyrics are good, and Dream Theater, or anyone else's are bad!
 
There is no good or bad ... or great or poor ... there's just people and their expressions!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 11:25
This newbie agrees 100%
Nice to meet u
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:13
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink


Really, Sonia I've heard it about a million times and it doesn't strike me at all really, sorryUnhappy
 
Bah! Party Pooper Unhappy umphf


I will give Lake and Giles credit though for the drums and vocals the only things I like about that album Wink
 
One day I will convert you into liking them, this is my mission SmileWinkHug


Try me LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:12
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink


Really, Sonia I've heard it about a million times and it doesn't strike me at all really, sorryUnhappy
 
Bah! Party Pooper Unhappy umphf


I will give Lake and Giles credit though for the drums and vocals the only things I like about that album Wink
 
One day I will convert you into liking them, this is my mission SmileWinkHug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:07
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink


Really, Sonia I've heard it about a million times and it doesn't strike me at all really, sorryUnhappy
 
Bah! Party Pooper Unhappy umphf


I will give Lake and Giles credit though for the drums and vocals the only things I like about that album Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:06
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink


Really, Sonia I've heard it about a million times and it doesn't strike me at all really, sorryUnhappy
 
Bah! Party Pooper Unhappy umphf
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:02
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink


Really, Sonia I've heard it about a million times and it doesn't strike me at all really, sorryUnhappy
“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

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"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:01
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink



Those lyrics make absolutely no sense, Sonia at all but that doesn't matter it's still a terrible song Wink
 
Lyrics don't need to make sense for one to relate to them, i.e. The Wizard by Uriah Heep is very emotional to me, beautiful and no I don't believe in Demons and Wizards Wink but that doesn't matter really Smile


Uriah Heep LOL when music connects with you and the lyrics make sense it's even better Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:00
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink



Those lyrics make absolutely no sense, Sonia at all but that doesn't matter it's still a terrible song Wink
 
lol ProgMetaller, you little pest Smile it's fab it's fantastic and the instrumentals are so insync too with the vocals, lifting you up and just tooo aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh brillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll taking you elsewhere Smile



the ahhhhhhhhhh's are the big problem for me I can't stand them to be honest it depresses the heck out of me, the instruments are definitely well played but is it great. My opinion is No! Wink I hate NSync they're terrible LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2013 at 00:00
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink



Those lyrics make absolutely no sense, Sonia at all but that doesn't matter it's still a terrible song Wink
 
Lyrics don't need to make sense for one to relate to them, i.e. The Wizard by Uriah Heep is very emotional to me, beautiful and no I don't believe in Demons and Wizards Wink but that doesn't matter really Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 23:57
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink



Those lyrics make absolutely no sense, Sonia at all but that doesn't matter it's still a terrible song Wink
 
lol ProgMetaller, you little pest Smile it's fab it's fantastic and the instrumentals are so insync too with the vocals, lifting you up and just tooo aaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh brillllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll taking you elsewhere Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 23:53
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink



Those lyrics make absolutely no sense, Sonia at all but that doesn't matter it's still a terrible song Wink


Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - February 04 2013 at 23:53
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 23:51
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
 
Hello ProgMetaller Smile here I have to disagree with you, The Court in the Crimson King title track alone lifts me up and gives me a high, fabulous harmonies too!!! Wink


Edited by Kati - February 04 2013 at 23:54
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King Cwinson has poor lyrics LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 20:24
Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Lyrical content eh? Apart from Neal Morse's preaching most prog has adequate lyrical content and covers far more topics than typical pop - which is some geezer singing about some girls eyes and heart when he's really just interested in her tits and fanny......or some bint singing about how she's in love now she;s found out the size of his wallet.....
Gangsta rap is about shooting people...and country and western is about snakes with tits....running off with his best friend when he's trying to get the harvest in with a broken tractor......Or am I just being just to sterotypical ??
 
M27Barney LOL your stereotypical ideas by classifying people through the music genre/.style they listen is a tad off, this includes your perception about their lyrical content i.e. not everyone who listens to prog is into Star Trek, Wizards and Demons or video games. . BTW in reference singing about eyes, you have two nice set of eyes on your avatar pic WinkBig smile     
Strange - all the proggers I know Love Star Trek / Science Fiction....also a good deal of them are fantasy war gamers..and obviously a lot are glued to their PS-II.....However I was just doing a swift premis based on the most likely topic matter for Pop/Ganstarap/Country and western......Mind you I haven't heard a lot of the latter two - can somebody point me at the 32 minute Country & western epic about the siege of stalingrad...I'd love to hear it....
 
I am quite openminded in terms of listening to other music genres also not phased by anything, I live in Africa and my housemate likes rap, I personally do not like rap however rap has a lot of meaningful lyrical content and I do not mean MTV rap music about gangsters and blink, lyrics don't mean much to me and this goes for all genres, I tend to focus mostly on instrumental this might be the reasom I like prog but not because of the lyrics, instrumentals mean much more to me. All this said certain rap artists even if they might sound a bit harsh they do have a good lyrical contend and NAS is a big example, one of his lyrics as follows:

[Chorus]
Hey yo its poison, ecstasy, coke
You say its love, it is poison
Schools where I learned they should be burned, it is poison
Physicians prescripting us medicine which is poison
Doctors injecting our infants with the poison
Religion misoverstood is poison

Niggas up in my hood be getting shot giving poison
In hospitals, shots rittle the block
Little children and elderly women run for their lives
Drizzling rain come out the sky every time somebody dies,
Must be out my f**king mind, what is this, the hundredth time?
Sending flowers to funerals, reading rest in peace
You know the usual, death comes in threes
Life is short is what some nigga said
Not if you measure life by how one lives and what he did
Its funny how these black killer companies is making money off us
Fast food, cola sodas, skull and bone crosses

[Chorus]

Sisters up in my hood trying to do good given choices
When pregnant drop out of school or have abortions
Stop working hoping that they find a man that will support them
Up late night on they mothers cordless, thinking a perm or
Bleaching cream will make better when they gorgeous
White girls tanning, lypo suction
Fake titties are implanted, fake lips that's life destruction
Light-skin women, bi-racial hateful toward themselves
Denying even they blood
I don't judge Tiger Woods but I overstand the mental poison
That's even worser than drugs

[Chorus]


Radio and TV poison, white Jesus poison
And any thoughts of taking me down is poison
Who want beef now, my heat shell annoyed them, plow

Never to worry, all the wrong doers got it coming back to em
A thousand times over
Every dog has its day and everything flips around
Even the most greatest nation in the world has it coming back to em
Everybody reaps what they sows that's how it goes
Innocent lives will be taken, it may get worse but we'll get through it
Y'all be strong

The China-men built the railroad
The Indians saved the Pilgrim
And in return the Pilgrim killed em
They call it it Thanksgiving, I call your holiday hellday
Cause I'm from poverty, neglected by the wealthy
Me and my niggas share gifts every day like Christmas
Slay bitches and party everyday like this is the last
I'm with my heckles connecting and we hitting the lad
This is my level, f**k if it get you mad
It's all poison, all of my words to enemies it is poison
Rappers only talk about ki's, its all poison
How could you call yourself emcees you ain't poison
Think about the kids you mislead with the poison
And any thoughts of taking me down is all poison
Who want beef now, my heat shell annoyed them, plow

[Bridge]
What goes around comes around my nigga
And what goes up it must come down my nigga
The soldiers found below the ground my nigga
Just hold it down we older now my nigga
What goes around comes around my nigga
And what goes up it must come down my nigga
The soldiers found below the ground my nigga
Just hold it down we older now my nigga

This nigga Ike with the Iverson jersey
Light skin with herpes
f**kin' sisters in Harlem, Brooklyn and D.C.
This is the problem cause he never tell em he got it
From letting fags suck him off Rikers Island in nine-three
Drives in Benz, hangs in all the parties
All the concerts, backstage where the stars be
Rocking their shirts in bitches faces like clockwork
What's your name, where you from, chain blinging
Thinking girls every wheres dumb, taking powder ruining their lives
So they could never have babies, and they could never be wives
He never used a condom, give him head he got ya
Met the wrong bitch and now he dead from the monster AIDs
I contemplate, believing in karma
Those on top could just break and won't be eating tomorrow
I know some bitches who be sleeping on niggas dreams
They leave when they nigga blow she the first bitch on her knees
Knowing dudes that's neglecting their seeds
Instead of taking care of em they spending money on trees
I pray for you deadbeat daddies
Cause when them kids get grown its too late for you
Now you old and you getting sh*tted on
Its all scientific, mystic, you know the Earth and the stars
Don't hesitate to say you heard it from Nas
What is destined shall be
George Bush killer til George Bush kills me
Much blessings be healthy, remember

[Bridge]


[Chorus]
Hey yo its poison, ecstasy, coke
You say its love, it is poison
Schools where I learned they should be burned, it is poison
Physicians prescripting us medicine which is poison
Doctors injecting our infants with the poison
Religion misoverstood is poison

Niggas up in my hood be getting shot giving poison
In hospitals, shots rittle the block
Little children and elderly women run for their lives
Drizzling rain come out the sky every time somebody dies,
Must be out my f**king mind, what is this, the hundredth time?
Sending flowers to funerals, reading rest in peace
You know the usual, death comes in threes
Life is short is what some nigga said
Not if you measure life by how one lives and what he did
Its funny how these black killer companies is making money off us
Fast food, cola sodas, skull and bone crosses

[Chorus]

Sisters up in my hood trying to do good given choices
When pregnant drop out of school or have abortions
Stop working hoping that they find a man that will support them
Up late night on they mothers cordless, thinking a perm or
Bleaching cream will make better when they gorgeous
White girls tanning, lypo suction
Fake titties are implanted, fake lips that's life destruction
Light-skin women, bi-racial hateful toward themselves
Denying even they blood
I don't judge Tiger Woods but I overstand the mental poison
That's even worser than drugs

[Chorus]


Radio and TV poison, white Jesus poison
And any thoughts of taking me down is poison
Who want beef now, my heat shell annoyed them, plow

Never to worry, all the wrong doers got it coming back to em
A thousand times over
Every dog has its day and everything flips around
Even the most greatest nation in the world has it coming back to em
Everybody reaps what they sows that's how it goes
Innocent lives will be taken, it may get worse but we'll get through it
Y'all be strong

The China-men built the railroad
The Indians saved the Pilgrim
And in return the Pilgrim killed em
They call it it Thanksgiving, I call your holiday hellday
Cause I'm from poverty, neglected by the wealthy
Me and my niggas share gifts every day like Christmas
Slay bitches and party everyday like this is the last
I'm with my heckles connecting and we hitting the lad
This is my level, f**k if it get you mad
It's all poison, all of my words to enemies it is poison
Rappers only talk about ki's, its all poison
How could you call yourself emcees you ain't poison
Think about the kids you mislead with the poison
And any thoughts of taking me down is all poison
Who want beef now, my heat shell annoyed them, plow

[Bridge]
What goes around comes around my nigga
And what goes up it must come down my nigga
The soldiers found below the ground my nigga
Just hold it down we older now my nigga
What goes around comes around my nigga
And what goes up it must come down my nigga
The soldiers found below the ground my nigga
Just hold it down we older now my nigga

This nigga Ike with the Iverson jersey
Light skin with herpes
f**kin' sisters in Harlem, Brooklyn and D.C.
This is the problem cause he never tell em he got it
From letting fags suck him off Rikers Island in nine-three
Drives in Benz, hangs in all the parties
All the concerts, backstage where the stars be
Rocking their shirts in bitches faces like clockwork
What's your name, where you from, chain blinging
Thinking girls every wheres dumb, taking powder ruining their lives
So they could never have babies, and they could never be wives
He never used a condom, give him head he got ya
Met the wrong bitch and now he dead from the monster AIDs
I contemplate, believing in karma
Those on top could just break and won't be eating tomorrow
I know some bitches who be sleeping on niggas dreams
They leave when they nigga blow she the first bitch on her knees
Knowing dudes that's neglecting their seeds
Instead of taking care of em they spending money on trees
I pray for you deadbeat daddies
Cause when them kids get grown its too late for you
Now you old and you getting sh*tted on
Its all scientific, mystic, you know the Earth and the stars
Don't hesitate to say you heard it from Nas
What is destined shall be
George Bush killer til George Bush kills me
Much blessings be healthy, remember

[Bridge]

Read more at http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/56390/#ocYyrZbis0P2cpeL.99
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2013 at 14:36
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by M27Barney M27Barney wrote:

Lyrical content eh? Apart from Neal Morse's preaching most prog has adequate lyrical content and covers far more topics than typical pop - which is some geezer singing about some girls eyes and heart when he's really just interested in her tits and fanny......or some bint singing about how she's in love now she;s found out the size of his wallet.....
Gangsta rap is about shooting people...and country and western is about snakes with tits....running off with his best friend when he's trying to get the harvest in with a broken tractor......Or am I just being just to sterotypical ??
 
M27Barney LOL your stereotypical ideas by classifying people through the music genre/.style they listen is a tad off, this includes your perception about their lyrical content i.e. not everyone who listens to prog is into Star Trek, Wizards and Demons or video games. . BTW in reference singing about eyes, you have two nice set of eyes on your avatar pic WinkBig smile     
Strange - all the proggers I know Love Star Trek / Science Fiction....also a good deal of them are fantasy war gamers..and obviously a lot are glued to their PS-II.....However I was just doing a swift premis based on the most likely topic matter for Pop/Ganstarap/Country and western......Mind you I haven't heard a lot of the latter two - can somebody point me at the 32 minute Country & western epic about the siege of stalingrad...I'd love to hear it....
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