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AbrahamSapien
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Topic: Yugoslavian/East European progressive Posted: January 08 2010 at 08:52 |
Yeah, there's also a bit unusual instruments in the studio and live versions.
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kole
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 15 2009 Location: Slovenia Status: Offline Points: 296 |
Posted: January 07 2010 at 13:40 |
Siddharta is indeed one of the most succesful bands in Slovenia (more succesful being only Terrafolk (prog folk band that won BBC award for live performance) and Laibach (industrial metal band)). They are quite commercially oriented (they are the first Slovenian band that was on the MTV and they were on top of week's charts or smth), but they still have some good music to offer. Their bass player, Jani Hace, is considered as the best Slovenian bass player, and plays in other bands as well (Elevators and Dedu za petami, both jazz fusion bands). Their music isn't really pop-rock in my opinion, more rock, hard rock. They have some prog elements (jazzy sax, they played with Big band RTV Slovenia, so the music was quite colorful, eclectic; some symphonic ones as well), but not much, maybe they would be, I don't know, prog related or smth, if they would be listed on PA.
Here are some of their best songs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjeIj87OGIE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImLMN-dLH_M (from the newest album, Saga, that was produced by Ross Robinson (Korn...) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzxCOos9ELQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZqbM9RyEV4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDifJ-8Epkg They are quite good in my opinion, but there are many much better bands on the (underground) scene right now - two of my favourites are Moonlight Sky (prog rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8_c5nMlGQ) and Feedback (jazz-rock - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmUQi60drmI). Also, there is much better music from ex-yu, for example, from Slovenia, Predmestje, September, Izvir, Buldožer (that still exists) etc. Edited by kole - January 07 2010 at 13:52 |
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AbrahamSapien
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 12:41 |
Thanks to you for the opinion. I have the same feeling about their music, but I think that there is some prog in their music, though they really are the most popular Slovenian band and probably want to be a little "different," but yeah, not really icons of alternative music. I think they're supposed to be more about lyrics, but I have never gone into that.
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Seyo
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Posted: January 06 2010 at 10:21 |
Thanks for the links provided.
At first listen, I do not hear many prog elements. For me this falls within the "mainstream" pop-rock, with occasional metal riffs. I do not know what is their status in Slovenia, but there are plenty similar-sounding bands across ex-YU countries. I am personally attached more to the old, classic progressive sound of the 1970s, so I might be too strict critic towards "new" bands (for me, "new" means anything after the demise of vinyl records and start of CD era, roughly 1990, which is also the end of Yugoslavian music scene). More often than not I found "old" music better to listen than "new" music, with very few exceptions.
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AbrahamSapien
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Posted: January 05 2010 at 08:39 |
No, they're slovenian and I think they started in the '90s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-7bnmG2yWI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmraOE3h36k&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkpwyU9HnF8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOf8Jtp313w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOCefvsZv6k&feature=related Here's some songs worth listening. Too bad, they've lost their sax player. His jazzy soloing was one of the best things about Siddharta. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nuhsEAjr4 Yeah, but they DO sound quite commercial. |
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Seyo
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:30 |
Never heard of them. From which period do they belong? Are they from exYU or what?
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AbrahamSapien
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Posted: January 04 2010 at 14:02 |
This might sound stupid, but: "What about Siddartha? Are they prog or (some kind of) pop rock commercial?" Cause that's the way that some of the new stuff sounds to me. Found also two other bands with that name.
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Seyo
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Posted: November 01 2009 at 16:58 |
Please read my review of PORODICNA MANUFAKTURA album "Stvaranje":
You are allowed to disagree, of course... ;) Enjoy
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Seyo
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Posted: October 31 2009 at 06:34 |
A good ole Kornelije Kovac was added here:
As a member of INDEXI and founder of KORNI GRUPA, he was a pioneer of progressive rock in exYU, although his solo works are perhaps not too interesting, hence he goes under "prog-related" only.
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Seyo
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 04:42 |
I added several album reviews of Josipa Lisac recently...
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Conor Fynes
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 11 2009 Location: Vancouver, CA Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
Posted: August 08 2009 at 16:05 |
Devil Doll - REALLY strange, very theatrical heavy prog. Strong gothic influence.
Psycho Symphony - Progressive metal from none other than Transylvania, not great on the vocals but very cool psychedelia
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Seyo
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Posted: August 08 2009 at 10:52 |
I added solo albums of Davorin Popovic here:
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4694 Since most of them featured one or another version of Indexi as backing band, I felt this is justified to have complete disography of albums where key Indexi members (Kovacevic, Redzic, Popovic) participated. And also his debut LP is technically an INDEXI album, containing several excellent borderline prog songs. |
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Seyo
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Posted: July 30 2009 at 16:09 |
I am also thinking about SCH (Sarajevo). I sent a query here:
They are quite radical in many musical aspects. I wonder would they qualify for PA. Any views on that?
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clarke2001
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 04:18 |
Cool, I'll try to gather some material in the meantime!
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Seyo
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Posted: May 28 2009 at 04:05 |
Ciao Clarke,
I couldn't agree more with you on Let 3! Except I did not listen to the whole last album, but "Dijete u vremenu" (clashing Deep Purple with Shaban Shaulic) is hilarious!
Let's keep an eye on them for possible addition....
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clarke2001
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 03:16 |
Dobro jutro!
You're reading my mind. I was thinking about Let 3 too...and here's my opinion. Of course, they started as a punk outpit (but with strong art attitude in "Strukturne Ptice" project - hence the name) and evolved into something much more sophisticated. By the mid-90's period they were already quite distant from punk with their music. "Peace" is a furious avant potpouree of heavy rock, electronica, folk, industrial, prog and what not. In the meantime, they started doing music for the theatre (and invented an instrument called "stropofon"). After their comeback, they were already incorporating opera, Balkan folk, collaborating with various ensembles from Gypsy folk ones to brass ones. And yes, 21th Century Schizoid Man and See Emily Play are often in their live repertore! "Necuveno" is also worth of considering within prog context because of Cage's 4'33 concept of silence..."Jedina" also contains lots of quirky avant stuff (and it was the CD issued in the quantity of 1, but label forced them to do reissues). The last album is, in my opinion, fully blown prog, with time signatures, weird soundeffects and everything. There are also references to "Child In Time" and "Wish You Were Here". Of course, their live performances are a whole debauchery of various people (and animals!) on stage, costumes, scenery...but you know it! Out of curiosity, are they still pulling rose flowers out of their anuses on stage? I dislike what are doing today (in public) and I think they overdid it a bit...with all that phallic things, explicit masturbation and stuff. But they know how to shock and how to entertain...they're clever in all that stupidity! Oh, and they are always denying any concept of "parodizing"...hm. "Enchant me!" "Oh, I will." *bumps an oversized polystyrene penis into his forehead* |
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Seyo
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 02:49 |
Rambo is amazing, especially in concert! You are right about highly sophisticated fusion of rock, folk, pop, jazz and funk elements in his music. Add to this a hilarious lyrics, sampling, parody and satire and you get a sort of hip-hop Zappa... Absolutely recommended!
On a slightly different topic, I just saw LET 3 in Sarajevo last week. Apart from their debatable aestethics and playing with nudity and obscenity, I found their music extremely powerful and non-standard rock. I think that a mere fact that these guys covered Crimson's "Schizoid man", Floyd "Emily" or Purple's "Child in Time", albeit in a very odd fashion, and their art/theatrical on stage approach, makes them interesting for PA community.... (not to mention the outrageous project called "Necuveno" when they issued a disc with nothing recorded on it.... )
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clarke2001
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 14 2006 Location: Croatia Status: Offline Points: 4160 |
Posted: May 26 2009 at 21:51 |
Y
ou know what...I was wondering...could a PA be a home for artist such is Rambo Amadeus? I guess some purist will lift their prog swords in anger, since his first two albums are more or less rap music (although highly parodising). But as he evolved he started incorporating avant music, jazz-rock, Balkan folk, snippets of opera and what not. And he's one hell of a guitar player! I saw him couple of times live, and that was always a rewarding listening experience. What a killer of a jazz rock band! |
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Seyo
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 08 2004 Location: Bosnia Status: Offline Points: 1320 |
Posted: May 20 2009 at 03:24 |
Welcome Astrallis! All the mentioned bands (and some more...) are included here at PA so you can check their respective pages.
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Andrea Cortese
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Posted: May 19 2009 at 15:56 |
Well, I couldn't agree more!!
I'd add Indexi to the list and the evergreen Bijelo Dugme.
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