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Poll Question: Which singer suits your tastes better?
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    Posted: April 08 2011 at 20:21
I used to love Yes' music, but could not find it in me to like in anyway Anderson's voice it sounded flat, and dead to me, but the last year or so I have really became accustomed to Anderson's singing. I started looking towards his voice more as part of the music instead of looking for some amazing vocalist! Anderson is not bad at all, but he is no Peter Hammill. Peter Hammill is one of the most dynamic vocalists in and out of the progressive realm. I showed some guy the other day who is a huge metalhead, the song Lemmings, and Killer he is not a fan of progressive music at all, and he was completely astonished! Hammill just evokes emotion in everything he sings, and unlike many singers trying to show off their impressive range, he seemed to try, and have a huge range of singing styles instead of range in octaves. You do not hear this from too many people, and he can sing every way good! Hammil definitely!
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Like their singing equally although they are very different, as for the lyrics, PH is the best songwriter in the world!
I look up, I'm almost blinded

by the warmth of what's inside me

and the taste that's in my soul,

but I'm dead inside as I stand alone...
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Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by A Person A Person wrote:

Originally posted by Tsevir Leirbag Tsevir Leirbag wrote:

Hammill. No question.

Exactly that.


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Jon Anderson
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this guy in his prime beat them both with one song
 


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Hammill!
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Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:



First of all, I really don't like Dickinson nor Halford at all, so Hammill is actually much closer to my liking than these singers. And man, in all sincerity I believe Hammill's belting is seriously lacking some power! LOL

People seem to find it hard to believe I think Anderson often gives a powerful performance! In "Eclipse", "Awaken" and "The Revealing Science of God" i.e. I find a lot of power, and I don't care if you don't. It's not "raw power", but call it "the power of love"! Wink

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I prefer Hammil all the same
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Love both but Hammill gets my vote
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It's out of question... PETER HAMMILL of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Points: 708 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2010 at 17:25
Originally posted by bucka001 bucka001 wrote:

Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

Originally posted by bucka001 bucka001 wrote:

Originally posted by Anderson III Anderson III wrote:

  I think Jon Anderson has much more power than Hammill, though.
 
Jon Anderson is okay (I've got all the old Yes albums and used to love them) but as far as lyrics and vocal versatility go, there's no comparison. It's Hammill (for me, anyway).


Wouldn't be the only time I disagree with Bob! LOL

Hammill surely has more varied ways of singing, but it doesn't automaticly mean he's the better singer. I'd much rather have one really nice style of singing, than five unpleasant ones. Also I'd like to mention I think Anderson's timbre doesn't limit his emotional range as everyone else seems to think...
 
 
But you used the word 'power' and, even if you hate the sound of his voice, there's no denying that PH can belt it out stronger and in a way that JA (and, indeed, most singers) could never hope to match. Hammill has inspired, and can more than match, the best of several classic heavy metal and punk legends (Bruce Dickenson from Iron Maiden, Rob Halford from J. Priest, etc). Doesn't mean that you'll like the sound of it, but there's no denying the balls-out raw power behind it (I can't imagine JA, or Peter Gabriel, Ian Anderson, etc, singing any of the harsher songs on Nadir's Big Chance or Vital - if you're not familiar with those albums, don't get them as you'll probably loathe them, but rest assured that 'power' is not something lacking in those albums). In no way is Jon Anderson a more 'powerful' singer than Peter Hammill, unless your using the word to describe your experience of listening to JA, i.e. a 'powerful' experience. Wink


First of all, I really don't like Dickinson nor Halford at all, so Hammill is actually much closer to my liking than these singers. And man, in all sincerity I believe Hammill's belting is seriously lacking some power! LOL

People seem to find it hard to believe I think Anderson often gives a powerful performance! In "Eclipse", "Awaken" and "The Revealing Science of God" i.e. I find a lot of power, and I don't care if you don't. It's not "raw power", but call it "the power of love"! Wink

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http://www.kayodot.net/toby/LLLL.html

Listen to Kandu vs. Corky and then come up to me and say Hammill's singing has "raw power"...
"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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Points: 1509 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2010 at 15:47
I think Peter Hammill is the stronger singer of the two but I prefer the Yes sound to that of VDGG. Both have a very unique style all on to themselves which is nice and then this leads to taste in the listener. I'm not a fan of Anderson's solo stuff and the later Yes stuff has been rather preachy getting away from his roots as a prog composer. I guess his membership to the O.T.O. has influenced many of his attitudes over the years and I guess he feels he is getting that much closer to the 'light' (enlightenment).
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Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Yeah, Jon's lyrics aren't THAT cryptic, they are intentionally ambigious and I personally love that technique because that way it's really all about the music and you can interpret the lyrics in various ways to get whatever kind of imagery you have going on in your head. That's the great thing about those kinds of lyrics IMO.


Me too, I hate lyrics like, 'It's grim up North blah, blah,' etc.  Just no imagination. No romance.
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anyone who thinks Hammill is only the shouter and not capable of expressing soft things should think again. there are lots of counterexamples; albums like "Fireships" or "And Close as This" are full of them, but by far not the only ones where Hammill sings with a pure and clean and, yes, beautiful voice.
here an example from "Fireships":



Edited by BaldJean - May 30 2010 at 12:13


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Definitely Hammill. Jon's lyrics just sound weak and have no power at all compared to Hammill.
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VdGG and YES are my 2 favorite bands, and for totally different reasons, so it's hard for me to compare, but Peter Hammill is my favorite single musician of the singer/songwriter ilk; whereas Jon Anderson needs Steve Howe by his side to make me feel the magic.  I voted for Hammill.
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Originally posted by boo boo boo boo wrote:

Yeah, Jon's lyrics aren't THAT cryptic, they are intentionally ambigious and I personally love that technique because that way it's really all about the music and you can interpret the lyrics in various ways to get whatever kind of imagery you have going on in your head. That's the great thing about those kinds of lyrics IMO.


Well put, my opinion too Smile
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Points: 905 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 18:02
Yeah, Jon's lyrics aren't THAT cryptic, they are intentionally ambigious and I personally love that technique because that way it's really all about the music and you can interpret the lyrics in various ways to get whatever kind of imagery you have going on in your head. That's the great thing about those kinds of lyrics IMO.
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Points: 377 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 17:12
Am I the only one who thinks the lyrics of Yes are amazing? I don't think they are weird at all.
If you really understand Yes, they can make more sense than the best lyrics Genesisis have made (I love Genesis as well as Yes). Some of you guys can't think very abstract. Btw I absolutely hated Jon's voice for ca. 2 years ago. Then I listened to Close to the Edge (title track) and understood how wrong i was (you have to understand Yes, to enjoy them).


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Points: 6457 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2010 at 15:09
Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Originally posted by Zombywoof Zombywoof wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

We have had a poll like this before.


I searched through history and couldn't find one. Oh well, it's hard to be original!
 
It is rather hard to perform the right queries on Jon Anderson or Peter Hammill since much has been written about them here on PA, but you can click here to view the poll.


Thanks for showing me! That poll is from before I joined, so it's no wonder I didn't realize it existed. It's funny that I didn't find it, though, since I searched the exact name of the poll!


A little known fact is that the actual forum search engine is a piece of crap compared to the search on the PA front page. Just change the option from "site" to "forum" and you'll find whatever you're looking for. Wink
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