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proger
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Topic: Fracture by King Crimson Posted: August 27 2005 at 06:22 |
is starless and bible black- is the best crimson album?
is say: aye
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alan_pfeifer
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Posted: August 26 2005 at 23:56 |
Bilek wrote:
Not only Fracture, everything done under the title of King Crimson is great! even the experimental part of Moonchild and the poppy tunes of '80's..
King Crimson is the King, indeed!
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Agreed. I find them to be one of the few consistenly progressive bands out there.
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Mr Krinkle
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Posted: August 24 2005 at 11:28 |
If I have to pick one Crimson track, Fracture would be my choice.
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Bj-1
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Posted: August 21 2005 at 13:18 |
Fracture is Great!! One of the Best songs on Starless And Bible Black.
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Bilek
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Posted: August 21 2005 at 07:15 |
Not only Fracture, everything done under the title of King Crimson is great! even the experimental part of Moonchild and the poppy tunes of '80's..
King Crimson is the King, indeed!
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Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!)
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CrimsonTony
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 14:02 |
Wow Fracture is the masterpiece of electric guitar! Fripp knows how to use a whole tone scale! I have a very large collection of classical, rock and jazz, and I've never heard a better piece of music!
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proger
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 13:10 |
i do like this song!!! he is wonderfull, robert frip is wonderfull.
i want to learn to play him in guitar...
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kingofbizzare
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Posted: August 16 2005 at 00:44 |
I just heard it for the first time about an hour ago. It's alright, but I bet it'll get a lot better with repeated listenings.
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Eetu Pellonpaa
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Posted: August 14 2005 at 09:15 |
condor wrote:
Yurkspb wrote:
Great piece of music, I prefer a Nigthwatch version.
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It's the same version, just on Starless and Bible Black the background noise is eliminated and the guitar overdubbed.
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Guitar overdubbed? How? I have both versions, and didn't notice differences?
The version from their last concert with Cross from Americe, has a nice version of it to. You can hear mellotrons much clearer.
I think SONIC YOUTH quoted the ending theme of "Fracture" on some of their song?
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condor
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Posted: June 02 2005 at 09:08 |
Yurkspb wrote:
Great piece of music, I prefer a Nigthwatch version.
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It's the same version, just on Starless and Bible Black the background noise is eliminated and the guitar overdubbed.
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the dragon
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 10:07 |
I like Fracture very much, is a very sick song.
And I dislike censorship!
Welcome back Belva!
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Yurkspb
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Posted: June 01 2005 at 09:53 |
Great piece of music, I prefer a Nigthwatch version.
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JrKASperov
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Posted: May 30 2005 at 12:12 |
But well implemented hard to play stuff > well implemented not hard to play stuff.
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Manunkind
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 06:35 |
Hiwatter wrote:
Guests wrote:
I accept your critic. I'm in fact pretty extremistic, in a sense of views but also in a sense of just having tons of fun. Laughing hard is a necessary part of my life. But anyway, let's go back to Fracture........ it was a piece of rock that trascended it , and brought your interests in classical. This is actually popular music influenced, thus progressive. Most of the people on the site don't even know KC made it, and if they know they'll just say "o yes great song" and then run for some metal stuff......... it's crazy, putting those bands over the same level............ can you actually think how hard is playing fracutre for a metal head dude ? |
I agree with you -- especially the quiet part is very hard to play.
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The fact that something is hard to play means only that it is hard to play, it doesn't necessarily mean it's good. Try playing "Insect" by Spiral Architect (btw, a bunch of metalheads who would probably have few problems playing "Fracture"), must be incredibly hard, but does that make "Insect" a good song? Not really.
But back on topic - "Fracture" =
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Hiwatter
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Posted: May 29 2005 at 05:38 |
Guests wrote:
I accept your critic. I'm in fact pretty extremistic, in a sense of views but also in a sense of just having tons of fun. Laughing hard is a necessary part of my life. But anyway, let's go back to Fracture........ it was a piece of rock that trascended it , and brought your interests in classical. This is actually popular music influenced, thus progressive. Most of the people on the site don't even know KC made it, and if they know they'll just say "o yes great song" and then run for some metal stuff......... it's crazy, putting those bands over the same level............ can you actually think how hard is playing fracutre for a metal head dude ? |
I agree with you -- especially the quiet part is very hard to play.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: May 27 2005 at 23:50 |
Good Stuff
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:19 |
I accept your critic. I'm in fact pretty extremistic, in a sense of views but also in a sense of just having tons of fun. Laughing hard is a necessary part of my life. But anyway, let's go back to Fracture........ it was a piece of rock that trascended it , and brought your interests in classical. This is actually popular music influenced, thus progressive. Most of the people on the site don't even know KC made it, and if they know they'll just say "o yes great song" and then run for some metal stuff......... it's crazy, putting those bands over the same level............ can you actually think how hard is playing fracutre for a metal head dude ?
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:13 |
cccp 320 wrote:
Anyway, I basically think this site stinks, but there are a few people intelligent on it. Those people do get my jokes , even if they are disturbing, and do get my disgust to a lot of useless prog bands. BE PROGRESSIVE IN EVERYTHING , ALSO IN COMICAL BEHAVIOURS.
PS: and I like to sting in the ass some bigot americans or english with some black cocks or lesbians masturbing. They deserve it for the ignorant mentality they bring. No they won't answer good thread, nor good review. My two DT are nothing porn, but I still had to insert them hacking to avoid the admin was gonna censor them. Cause he's stininking subdued to commercial tastes.
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I agree in some things you say, for example "they won't answer good thread", and that about "ignorant minds", but I think some of your methods ougth to be refind and reconsidered
Cheers
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Guillermo
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:11 |
Yes. "Fracture" is a great song.
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Posted: May 26 2005 at 12:03 |
Anyway, I basically think this site stinks, but there are a few people intelligent on it. Those people do get my jokes , even if they are disturbing, and do get my disgust to a lot of useless prog bands. BE PROGRESSIVE IN EVERYTHING , ALSO IN COMICAL BEHAVIOURS.
PS: and I like to sting in the ass some bigot americans or english with some black cocks or lesbians masturbing. They deserve it for the ignorant mentality they bring. No they won't answer good thread, nor good review. My two DT are nothing porn, but I still had to insert them hacking to avoid the admin was gonna censor them. Cause he's stininking subdued to commercial tastes.
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