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raindance

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Topic: ProgPos Blog - Genesis Studio LP Tour
Posted: May 25 2010 at 07:28

Not a great album! Does Hackett play on it?????

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Posted: May 21 2010 at 03:58

progpositivity wrote:

I'm striving for a "best of both worlds" approach here. I just "spun off" a new topic for Nursery Cryme. The next time a spin-off topic comes up, this thread won't have to change names.

Hey there

Sorry to come into this thread late, Mark. Whats it all about>? Are you just discussing various songs of Genesis or the whole band history? I have recently been getting into the intertestemental period of Genesis

between Trick of the Tail and Abacab. I am endeavouring to review every Genesis album but its a slow process.

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Posted: May 17 2010 at 03:51

Bonnek wrote:

By the way, I haven't heard any Yes or ELP reproduction yet that I haven't been running away from at full speed!

Yeah no one wants to imitate the vocals of Greg Lake do they

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Posted: April 26 2010 at 12:58

I'm striving for a "best of both worlds" approach here. I just "spun off" a new topic for Nursery Cryme. The next time a spin-off topic comes up, this thread won't have to change names.

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Posted: April 25 2010 at 12:58

I appreciate the feedback. Before making a decision, I'd like to share a little of the thought process behind what I've been doing. As always, I welcome your opinions!

This was posted to the "Blog" section of the PA board. I'm still relatively new here, so perhaps someone can help me understand how a Blog could work better on the ProgArchives board.

I've considered opening a new topic many times. That would have resulted in quite a few independent threads all doing "their own little things" by now... This clearly has advantages in terms of simplicity. But I felt there would have been something lost in terms of continuity with respect to the "Blog" concept.

Perhaps, I should ask, in this context, what does ProgArchives consider to be a "Blog"? I've tended to think of it as a journal of sorts... a semi-regularly "updated, chronological publication of personal thoughts".

http://www.marketingterms.com/dictionary/blog/

If I were to start up a new "Blog" thread each time another topic of observation came along, it devolves into something quite less than a Blog to me. Perhaps more like a random scattering of various mini-Prog-Editorials here and there.

One answer might be, "Mark, this is a discussion board with *threads* - not a Blog".

And while I'm certainly willing to listen and consider that perspective, at this moment I would be left wondering "why then - is a section of this board set aside and reserved for Blogs?"

Your thoughts?

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Posted: April 25 2010 at 12:15

The Quiet One wrote:

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I believe you should open a new thread for Nursery Cryme, people gets confused because his thread has changed names too many times.

Iván

Seconded.

Tripled-ed already. Where is it ProgPos?

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Posted: April 25 2010 at 12:05

If Eddie Offord had produced it and had brought in Alan Parsons as the engineer, this would get much more love.

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 23:42

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

I believe you should open a new thread for Nursery Cryme, people gets confused because his thread has changed names too many times.

Iván

Seconded.

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 22:57

not my favorite early Gen record, but it's growing on me

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 22:39

A Person wrote:

I wasn't much of a Genesis fan until I got this:

http://www.tomamusica.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/genesis_1970_1975_sacd_box_set.jpg

I love this box. I also think this is the perfect way to do bonus tracks: on a seperate disc if possible.

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 19:47

I believe you should open a new thread for Nursery Cryme, people gets confused because his thread has changed names too many times.

Iván

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 12:42

A Person wrote:

I wasn't much of a Genesis fan until I got this:

Yes! Amazingly good box, that! I have lended it from the library, some time ago. I was even able to hear the surround mixes, because I got a DVD-A/SACD player.

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 12:36

Aah, nice story American Khatru. I remember how I first got into Genesis too. I had lent Nursery Cryme from the library, not expecting much, because my only experience with the band was from the newer 80's albums., played on the radio.

The vinyl was in a really bad shape, with years of wear and tear and bad handling. And I was in a kinda bad shape myself, having a cold and fever. But listening to the album, I was blown away more and more each consecutive minute, just as you say, Khatru. The cold and fever also had a very unexpected positive effect on this, I went into a kind of trancelike state because of this, and that made the album even more enjoyable.

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 12:35

I wasn't much of a Genesis fan until I got this:

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 12:23

^ He has my envy too Rot. I remember vividly first hearing the Foxtrot album at a friends house. That particular one was in his father's record collection (this had to be late 70's?), and neither I nor my friend had ever heard it (though I already knew Watcher from Genesis Live, which I had on 8-track). Never forget how we were blown away more and more with each consecutive minute.

Why must my spell-checker continually underline the word "prog"?

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 12:17

I envy you a bit progpositively, for being in the position of trying to get into the early Genesis albums for the first time. Oh, those days! Nursery Cryme was really a very important album back in those days. Now it has lost a lot of its magic after hearing zillions of other bands.

I don't want to sound elitist, but nowadays I have to listen to more and more extreme left-field bands to get a impression of hearing something new.

I guess I am an old f**t

Sorry for being a killjoy...

Edited by Rottenhat - April 24 2010 at 12:24

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Posted: April 24 2010 at 12:13

Too distracted Friday night. My attempts to listen to Nursery Cryme devolved into "background listening" as I did other things... I shouldn't be surprised that I got the same result I've had over the years: a vague sense of audio drama in the background, a notch above but not particularly unlike the music of any number of neo-proggers.

Now I'm not saying that this was a fair and accurate assessment. Only that I'm going to have to really *listen* if I want to really *connect* with this music.

One general impression I can offer from the background listening... Hackett and Collins are more adept, fluid and downright comfortable than their predecessors IMO.

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Posted: April 23 2010 at 21:15

Before I can righfully move on to the next Genesis stuio album in my 'mini-tour', I *owe* an update on my TRESPASS listening experience.

I had expected The Knife to be the clear standout track from the entire album, but repeated listens (with full attention) have yielded an unexpected result. Stagnation has turned out to be my favorite.

I hope you will forgive me for hearing snatches of early classic Moody Blues (In Search of the Lost Chord era) here and there during some of the quieter moments of TRESPASS. The song Dusk is the most obvious (but not the only) example. The Moodies had so many slick hits that it sometimes gets easy to forget how organic and cosmic, mellow and artistic they could be back in those early days.

I also hear some unexpected stylistic 'common ground' with Gentle Giant's Three Friends album.

I now believe I have *absorbed* this album enough to *graduate* on to the next Genesis stuio LP. NURSERY CRYME!!!

One final note to come 'full circle' back to the beginning theme of the blog. Has anyone heard of a band named Madrigal? I just heard an album of theirs named "On My Hands" that I consider (not equal to but) worthy of consideration from classic Genesis fans looking for a similar approach with a modern sensibility. By modern I mean 80's or 90's... Wow... I must be really *old*! LOL!! But you know what I mean. More modern than 70's era Genesis.

I'll personally rate Madrigal above 80's Marillion and IQ any day.

Mark Stephens

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Posted: April 23 2010 at 12:09