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toroddfuglesteg
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Topic: Book reviews? Posted: March 15 2010 at 16:04 |
I buy and read a lot of books about prog rock because it is a part of the whole prog rock package. There is also some real turkeys out there among the books. So I am all for it.
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JLocke
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Posted: March 15 2010 at 13:27 |
^ Cool news, M@X!  We'll see if any of our ideas will take shape in a future incarnation of PA.
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M@X
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Posted: March 15 2010 at 12:40 |
Thanks for the suggestions guys, will take them into consideration when updating the site features.
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Raff
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:13 |
On a side note, I believe the site should start listing stuff like interviews and book reviews away from the forums. As much as I like hanging around here, we need to be a bit more systematic with reference material, and make it available to people who are not necessarily interested in visiting the forums.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:13 |
 Comprendo
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:09 |
^ Obviously it would only be music-specific books. I don't think a book about John Lennon treating his first wife and child like crap is worthy of adding to the Beatles page, for instance, but the books written about the studio sessions and the band's musical career would.
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:05 |
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so...any ol books or music books? like for example the Shapiro book on Harrison,George is complete and total rubbish. Saying things like "when Paul met with George in the hospital they talked about.... How des he know what they talked about? Or Shapiro said that Paul was getting jealous of George's success. Or they went to score some more...How does this guy know that?
The Rolling Stones Altamont situation was done good
excerpt.."What did you say? Come over here" "I said I don't no orders from no ..WHAM!!!
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 17:36 |
seventhsojourn wrote:
JLocke wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
I think it's a very good idea. I like it a lot to read about my favorite artists. About prog artists there are a lot of interesting books written.
There are quite some book reviews on this site, but it sounds like a good idea if they got their own section.
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Well see, that's my main point. Searching the forums for unorganized book reviews isn't nearly as practical or use-friendly as including book reviews on the site itself. And like I said earlier, not all fans of this site go to the forums, so they miss out on the book mentions completely.
This would be a good way to properly present the book reviews for all to see. |
Yes, great idea.
I think you make an important point about visitors to the site. Before i joined in December 2009, I never looked at the forums. |
Cool.  I'm glad you see where I'm coming from.
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seventhsojourn
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 16:28 |
JLocke wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
I think it's a very good idea. I like it a lot to read about my favorite artists. About prog artists there are a lot of interesting books written.
There are quite some book reviews on this site, but it sounds like a good idea if they got their own section.
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Well see, that's my main point. Searching the forums for unorganized book reviews isn't nearly as practical or use-friendly as including book reviews on the site itself. And like I said earlier, not all fans of this site go to the forums, so they miss out on the book mentions completely.
This would be a good way to properly present the book reviews for all to see. |
Yes, great idea.
I think you make an important point about visitors to the site. Before i joined in December 2009, I never looked at the forums.
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 16:25 |
Finnforest wrote:
My only concern is page loading. With the biggies, like Beatles, Sabb, etc....the pages are already getting slow due to all of the singles and dubious DVDs people add to their artist pages. I hate the clutter. Think how many books there would be for the Beatles!!
It all goes back to the question I asked long ago, if Max could set up these other sections (like singles, books, dvds, etc), so that they don't appear until you click the leaf/link to open that section, then it would be AWESOME as the official studio albums and live albums would quickly open. But if they are set up just like another section on the main page the speed thing is a concern for people with slow internet.
Aside from that issue, I love the idea. So the question is, can books truly have a separate section that won't auto-load on the artist page unless you click on it?
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I'm not sure how much more work that would take. Also, super-interactive web pages tend to not always work depending on a person's browser or net connection.
The Beatles page loads just fine for me, and I use Wi-Fi. So I'm not sure if enough people are having the same page-loading issue as you are currently, but I know for a fact that even more people would start having issues if we put the subsequent sections in leaf/drop-down form. As for separate pages altogether, that just makes it even more disjointed, which is what we need to avoid.
But I'm glad you like the idea in any case, haha. 
Edited by JLocke - February 27 2010 at 16:27
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halabalushindigus
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 16:22 |
I am sooo ready to write a review of "Planet Of The Apes" by Pierre Boulle.
Is this what we are talking about or books specifically on The prog movement, bands, bios in general?
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 16:14 |
My only concern is page loading. With the biggies, like Beatles, Sabb, etc....the pages are already getting slow due to all of the singles and dubious DVDs people add to their artist pages. I hate the clutter. Think how many books there would be for the Beatles!! It all goes back to the question I asked long ago, if Max could set up these other sections (like singles, books, dvds, etc), so that they don't appear until you click the leaf/link to open that section, then it would be AWESOME as the official studio albums and live albums would quickly open. But if they are set up just like another section on the main page the speed thing is a concern for people with slow internet. Aside from that issue, I love the idea. So the question is, can books truly have a separate section that won't auto-load on the artist page unless you click on it?
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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progkidjoel
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 16:04 |
I agree, it would be a great step towards making PA an even better database. Sounds like a a great idea to me, especially since its relatively hard to find reviews for some books about prog other than on Amazon.
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:51 |
^ See, I would LOVE to find out people's opinions of books like that, but would rather not have to scour the internet in order to learn about them. If it would all be in the same place, I could discover so much more prog writings so much faster.
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Raff
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:45 |
In Italy there is quite a surprising amount of literature dedicated to prog and rock in general. I have a book about the Canterbury movement which is quite good and nicely detailed, with an excellent discography at the end. In recent years, books have also been released about individual RPI albums, as well as about the movement as a whole.
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:44 |
SaltyJon wrote:
There are even books on various artists, like the Krautrock books.
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Maybe we could include those type books in the 'Various Artists' section, and then specific genre-related books that are particularly useful could be put on the particular genre's main page? Sort of like how 'key albums' are shown?
Stop me anytime my ideas/suggestions get too crazy. 
Edited by JLocke - February 27 2010 at 15:47
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:43 |
Moogtron III wrote:
I think it's a very good idea. I like it a lot to read about my favorite artists. About prog artists there are a lot of interesting books written.
There are quite some book reviews on this site, but it sounds like a good idea if they got their own section.
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Well see, that's my main point. Searching the forums for unorganized book reviews isn't nearly as practical or use-friendly as including book reviews on the site itself. And like I said earlier, not all fans of this site go to the forums, so they miss out on the book mentions completely.
This would be a good way to properly present the book reviews for all to see.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:40 |
There are even books on various artists, like the Krautrock books.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:40 |
I think it's a very good idea. I like it a lot to read about my favorite artists. About prog artists there are a lot of interesting books written.
There are quite some book reviews on this site, but it sounds like a good idea if they got their own section.
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SaltyJon
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 15:38 |
I know there are books on other bands too, such as Magma, but I wouldn't be able to read/review it as it's in French. Still, good idea.
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