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    Posted: July 22 2005 at 12:25

 

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Do not say that Tool is not prog. 

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No they are not,really.They are Alternative Metal primarily.I would say they have experimental rock(probably where the Prog rock sound comes from - Adrian Belew etc.),Alt. pop/rock & post - punk influences.Nine Inch Nails are one of their influences which is Industrial Metal not a hundred miles away from Noise rock.

I have not seen it stated anywhere that they are into out and out Prog rock apart from later day King Crimson which is more atonal/experimental jazz/rock anyway.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2005 at 11:23
Originally posted by Scratchy Scratchy wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Carl floyd fan Carl floyd fan wrote:

if tool is here, sonic youth belongs.  lets keep the debate rolling, wanna hear more!

These two could not be more different.

Entirely disagree - I've just been listening to both along side each other,there are similarities.You must admit that Jane's Addiction is one of the main influences of Tool/Perfect Circle.Sonic Youth & Jane's Addiction are influenced by Velvet Underground & the Stooges.The influences can definately be heard.I prefer where Tool/Perfect Circle have taken it though being a Prog fan.You cannot deny there is a noise rock/no-wave element to T/PC music which gives the Prog sound a fresh approach.

I guess I dont know SY well enough to judge, but there is no "noise rock" element to Tool.  Noise rock is random and more improvised.  Tool is extremely mathematical and mostly harmonic in nature.  they have strange rhythms, but even the odd polyrhythms have special meaning.  every layer in a tool song has a purpose.  Do not say that Tool is not prog. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2005 at 11:15
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Carl floyd fan Carl floyd fan wrote:

if tool is here, sonic youth belongs.  lets keep the debate rolling, wanna hear more!

These two could not be more different.

Entirely disagree - I've just been listening to both along side each other,there are similarities.You must admit that Jane's Addiction is one of the main influences of Tool/Perfect Circle.Sonic Youth & Jane's Addiction are influenced by Velvet Underground & the Stooges.The influences can definately be heard.I prefer where Tool/Perfect Circle have taken it though being a Prog fan.You cannot deny there is a noise rock/no-wave element to T/PC music which gives the Prog sound a fresh approach.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2005 at 09:41

Originally posted by Carl floyd fan Carl floyd fan wrote:

if tool is here, sonic youth belongs.  lets keep the debate rolling, wanna hear more!

These two could not be more different.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 22 2005 at 09:39

Originally posted by Carl floyd fan Carl floyd fan wrote:

if tool is here, sonic youth belongs.  lets keep the debate rolling, wanna hear more!

I've just listened to Murray Street - Sonic Youth.This is slightly more melodic than previous offerings AFAIK.This album is closer to Television(or perhaps they had been listening to Mercury Rev) who I have recently checked out.Mercury Rev are also influenced by Sonic Youth which are even more melodic and have a Orchestrated backing.Fans of Syd Barrett should like these.

I would definately classify these groups as Alternative rock which have followed on from the influences of The Velvet Underground.All well worth a listen for prog fans,especially those who like a more atonal sound i.e. Porcupine Tree,even King Crimson or neo-Psych(the Cure).Perhaps Jane's Addiction comes inbetween these bands and Tool/A Perfect Circle(one of my favourite groups at the moment) - both of which I would also classify as Alternative rock/metal.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2005 at 15:23
if tool is here, sonic youth belongs.  lets keep the debate rolling, wanna hear more!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2005 at 06:43
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Opeth, Tool are included in the archives despite that they don't play prog music, so...why not Sonic Youth?

Well, at least they aren't metal, eh?

Much as I like them, they really don't have a place here (I think I suggested them myself about a year ago, but I've changed my mind).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 04:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 04:36
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

They've had some prog moments, but I wouldn't consider them a prog band.

Opeth, Tool are included in the archives despite that they don't play prog music, so...why not Sonic Youth?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2005 at 04:27

Originally posted by Useful_Idiot Useful_Idiot wrote:

They've had some prog moments, but I wouldn't consider them a prog band.

Opeth, Tool are included in the archives despite that they don't play prog music, so...why not Sonic Youth?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 12 2005 at 23:40
NO WAY SONIC YOUTH IS PROG!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2005 at 19:17
They seem  more no-wave than prog cause they do atonal stuff
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2005 at 05:12
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2005 at 22:28
They've had some prog moments, but I wouldn't consider them a prog band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 08 2005 at 19:28
They are definetly prog.  They have long songs, strange structures, weird tunings, etc.
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