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Poll Question: Who is the more innovative artist in your opinion?
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    Posted: November 05 2008 at 15:48
Frith.
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Just glad to have both of them around. 
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Fripp or Frith? vote for Fripp




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Both very talented, though it wasn't that hard... Fripp it is for me.
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In strict terms of innovation, Frith by millimeters, since we're talking about the most important musicians of the most important bands on each subgenre.

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Fripp for me. No doubt about it. I wish his output when it comes to Crimson was more these days.
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Originally posted by febus febus wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

While I respect Frith immensely, Robert is just iconic, sardonic, sadistic, majestic, caustic and melodic in a way that few can comprehend , let alone master. He is not an easy piece of pastry, either what with his finger pointing at the industry. Amazingly complex fellow and the most influential rock guitarist since Jimi.
 
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I second that ! Nothing I can add.
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Fred Frith is far and away the more immovative of the two, but it's an interesting comparison to make.
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Fripper the ripper
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Frith, because even though he seems to be using the same guitar tone on most/all of the releases I've heard from him, I do not like Fripp at all.
 
Maybe Robert doesn't like you either , now that's a perfect audience/artist relationship, no? LOL
I'm ok with him hating the audience, I just find his music incredibly dull.
 
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Frith, because even though he seems to be using the same guitar tone on most/all of the releases I've heard from him, I do not like Fripp at all.
 
Maybe Robert doesn't like you either , now that's a perfect audience/artist relationship, no? LOL
I'm ok with him hating the audience, I just find his music incredibly dull.
 
that is a pretty '' plainview'' WinkLOLWinkLOL  giggle a bit will you!
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Frith, because even though he seems to be using the same guitar tone on most/all of the releases I've heard from him, I do not like Fripp at all.
 
Maybe Robert doesn't like you either , now that's a perfect audience/artist relationship, no? LOL
I'm ok with him hating the audience, I just find his music incredibly dull.
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

While I respect Frith immensely, Robert is just iconic, sardonic, sadistic, majestic, caustic and melodic in a way that few can comprehend , let alone master. He is not an easy piece of pastry, either what with his finger pointing at the industry. Amazingly complex fellow and the most influential rock guitarist since Jimi.


Yes, but the question is who was more innovative. 

The only innovative thing Fripp ever did was hook together two tape recorders.  Oh wait, that was Brian Eno. 
 
Fripp not innovative? "You must be joking, take a running jump" Genesis lyric LOL From his early acoustic tendencies, infused with searing (21st Century) leads and then getting jazzier and symphonic (Sailor's Tale ) , followed by the sheer onslaught of Larks, Starless and Red , plus countless succulent guest solos (Baby's on Fire, among many others ) . Frippertronic soundscapes, teaching guitar with lessons, getting into lightly punk universes, countless recent innovations. Plus he was the first to openly attack the ''system''. And i saw him stand up once and we , the audience were bewildered. Confused Who knows?
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

While I respect Frith immensely, Robert is just iconic, sardonic, sadistic, majestic, caustic and melodic in a way that few can comprehend , let alone master. He is not an easy piece of pastry, either what with his finger pointing at the industry. Amazingly complex fellow and the most influential rock guitarist since Jimi.


Yes, but the question is who was more innovative. 

The only innovative thing Fripp ever did was hook together two tape recorders.  Oh wait, that was Brian Eno. 


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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Frith, because even though he seems to be using the same guitar tone on most/all of the releases I've heard from him, I do not like Fripp at all.
 
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Frith, because even though he seems to be using the same guitar tone on most/all of the releases I've heard from him, I do not like Fripp at all.
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Cutler asked me to vote Frith, then Bruford hit me with his stick. So, I say: Derek Bailey.
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Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

While I respect Frith immensely, Robert is just iconic, sardonic, sadistic, majestic, caustic and melodic in a way that few can comprehend , let alone master. He is not an easy piece of pastry, either what with his finger pointing at the industry. Amazingly complex fellow and the most influential rock guitarist since Jimi.
 
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While I respect Frith immensely, Robert is just iconic, sardonic, sadistic, majestic, caustic and melodic in a way that few can comprehend , let alone master. He is not an easy piece of pastry, either what with his finger pointing at the industry. Amazingly complex fellow and the most influential rock guitarist since Jimi.
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Incredibly difficult to choose between, since they're both fantastic, but as its 3-2 Frith currently Ill go with Fripp to tie it up :D

Edited by mellors - November 02 2008 at 14:40
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