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WinterLight
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Topic: life on other planets Posted: July 14 2008 at 23:22 |
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False dichotomy, loaded question, etc. In any case, I intended not to exhibit a counterargument but rather to bring attention to the flaws in your reasoning. |
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darkshade
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
Posted: July 14 2008 at 22:59 | |||||||
maybe the creator(s) meant for life on other planets to never meet each other, thus why we're so far away from the nearest star.
this came up in a discussion i had about God or whatever, and how it's possible there's 2, but no more. and how 1 being created the 2. but that could turn this into SERIOUS arguments... |
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Dim
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 22:50 | |||||||
If behaviour beyond that of most basic life of all animals constitutes intelligent life, then there just maybe something out there that we can be compared to, but space ships flying at the speed of light... not possible.
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darkshade
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 22:49 | |||||||
dolphins will eventually realize "hey, what if i get out of the water and crawl around?" and the cycle repeats............ cmon! they figured out how to masturbate by jumping out of the water, and as they hit the water coming back down, well, you know the rest. (this is not meant to be offensive, dirty, or anything else. I'm being serious and mature about it. I brought this up to explain my point that dolphins are probably the most intelligent creatures on this planet and they have similar thought processes as us. I'm sorry if i can't actually post this, but if I get in trouble for what i said, that'd be sad.)
Edited by darkshade - July 14 2008 at 22:51 |
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Fight Club
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 572 |
Posted: July 14 2008 at 22:41 | |||||||
So, were you actually planning on saying something? Or were you just
planning on throwing a bunch of words around to make it sound like you
had a plausible counter argument? Because that's what it sounded like
to me.
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WinterLight
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 09 2008 Status: Offline Points: 424 |
Posted: July 14 2008 at 18:08 | |||||||
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: July 14 2008 at 16:12 | |||||||
u mist teh "sew lonk" |
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Padraic
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 15:08 | |||||||
Thanks for all the fish. |
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Pnoom!
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Posted: July 14 2008 at 15:06 | |||||||
I thought it might be that (it's what my dad says). But, as stupid as people are, they still constitute intelligent life. As do, arguably, dolphins, among other examples. |
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Fight Club
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 572 |
Posted: July 14 2008 at 13:17 | |||||||
Definitely. Think about it. When you look up at the night sky you see billions of stars. Go out to Nebraska and you see even more. More than half of those stars half a system of planets of their own. The Wilky Way Galaxy holds roughly 400 billion stars. Now imagine more than half of those with a system of planets. So that's about what? Maybe at least 5 planets each? So there's at least 1 trillion planets in just the Milky Way Galaxy alone. How illogical is it to assume not one out of these trillion planets (of just the Milky Way let me remind you) holds even a bit of life on it? Remember life doesn't have to be weird creatures or humanoids, but can be trees, bacteria, worms, anything. It's just illogical to think only one planet in the entire universe (which we still are unaware of the size) has living organisms on it. Anyone who really believes that needs to pull their head out of his ass and wake up.
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: July 11 2008 at 22:13 | |||||||
Cause I have trouble believing theres intelligent life here.
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 22:12 | |||||||
well, I do believe in UFO sightings. but I believe they are exactly that - Unidentified Flying Objects |
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Philéas
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 14 2006 Status: Offline Points: 6419 |
Posted: July 11 2008 at 17:53 | |||||||
Most likely. But I don't believe in UFO sightings and that kind of stuff. Space is big and the chances of them having found us is as slim as we having found them (which we haven't). Also, the whole thing about a possible intelligent life form on another planet being extremely far ahead of us technologically is rather silly to me, for all we know they could be stuck in the stone age still, or at our level.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 12:10 | |||||||
I find that claim highly dubious. |
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WinterLight
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 12:08 | |||||||
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BaldJean
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 07:48 | |||||||
I certainly would; the means by which reproduction takes place are not of importance for the definition. you'd be amazed how many different ways for reproduction there are in life, even if it all boils down to "sperm meets egg" in the end. the "cell" part of the definition is true for life on earth; it is not necessary for life per se. or would you not call something you find on another planet that fits all requirements except for the cell part "alive"? Edited by BaldJean - July 15 2008 at 10:23 |
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: July 10 2008 at 18:54 | |||||||
Why so certain? |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: July 10 2008 at 18:31 | |||||||
Is there life? Probably. Is there intelligent life? No.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: July 10 2008 at 18:28 | |||||||
...not according to the Wiki article you are about to show me - not all scientists support this assertion it appears.
good one. It is what "not falsifiable" means, but not always...
Which I interpret as "can never be proven wrong"
i.e. it is falsifiable in theory but not in practice.
i.e. it is falsifiable in theory but not in practice.
Anyway, this is turning into a circular argument. I'm out. |
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WinterLight
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 16:36 | |||||||
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