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Relayer09 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 314 |
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Every new technology is expensive when first hitting the marketplace. Computers, CD players, etc were all expensive at their introduction but now they're relatively cheap because most everyone has one. I don't see planet earth ever having a shortage of hydrogen and if there ever is one we'll all be dead and it won't really matter. Burning hemp and grease still produce emissions and contribute to global warming whereas hydrogen has no such emissions. Now if we can get the oil lobbyists out of the pocket of our politicians we may become self reliant on energy and have a cleaner enviroment someday.
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debrewguy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
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I say we turn over our entire agricultural production to making ethanol, thereby bringing about a revolution, and finally absolute destruction of a civilization that refuses to pay the price for its' insistence on burying its' collective head in the sand when it comes to facing such issues.
For God's sake, walk, bike, take public transit, car pool. This seems to be a small (so far) trend in the U.S. . Who knows, if the consumer refuses to consume or cuts back on the use of a (supposedly) overpriced commodity, maybe the price will come down. And if it doesn't well ... you're still paying less, cause you're using it less. |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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I still say grow hemp for fuel like our grandfathers did. Simple solution.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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From what I've read you are correct. And don't you think these wise guys don't have it their capability to keep it that way?
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BroSpence ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 05 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2614 |
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Isn't hydrogen fuel supposed to be almost as expensive as the current price of regular gasoline? I'd rather get an old diesel car and fuel it with hemp and grease. |
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Relayer09 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 314 |
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Oil has risen in conjunction with the increased demand of China and India. Supply has gone down because of these two countries increasing demand thus raising prices. My next car is going to be a hydrogen fuel cell and I'll give our friends at OPEC the big middle finger. http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/chevy-equinox-fuel-cell-suv.htm |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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![]() "In a hotel room in Brussels, the chief executives of the world’s top oil companies unrolled a huge map of the Middle East, drew a fat, red line around Iraq and signed their names to it. The map, the red line, the secret signatures.
It explains this war.
It happened on July 31, 1928, but the bill came due now. In 1928, oil company chieftains were faced with
a crisis: falling prices due to rising supplies of oil;
The solution then, as now: stop the flow of oil,
squeeze the market, raise the price.
War is profitable business – if you’re an oil man. But somehow, the public pays the price, at the pump and at the funerals, and the oil companies reap the benefits." Greg Palast ![]() Edited by Slartibartfast - May 25 2008 at 01:42 |
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Relayer09 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 314 |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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True about Air America but if you believe the numbers MSNBC is holding it's own and beating FauxNews in the important numbers. It appears that Bill O's audience is either dying off or they're growing tired of him. As to Bob & Tom I grew tired of them years ago. Same schtick week after week. |
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Relayer09 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 314 |
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Air America and MSNBC are so much better! Oh wait Air America went bankrupt and I don't think anyone watches MSNBC anymore. Well there's always the Bob & Tom show.
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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I'm not one of those kool-aid drinkers that watches FauxNews or those Didiots that listen to Rush. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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OK, it's obvious you haven't had a proper brainwashing. ![]() |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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He's funny. I like how he bashes the other right wing know-it-all's. He has some valid points and yes he is firmly planted in the conservative US ideals of the 50's. But I need balance. I can't believe that any one party or person has all the answers. |
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Hey, didn't you start this thread saying you were listening to Michael Savage?
For the love of God, please don't. ![]() ![]() Weiner Edited by Slartibartfast - May 23 2008 at 08:04 |
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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Reagan would be as smart today as he was when....well.....um. Nevermind.
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Slartibartfast ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
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Yeah, but we'd have to dig them up and I don't think they smell so good no more. ![]() |
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Relayer09 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 31 2007 Location: Ohio Status: Offline Points: 314 |
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Personally, if I had a choice of putting a president such as FDR or Ronald Reagan back in office for a third term I would much rather have that option than having to pick from any of the three bozos still in contention in this election.
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crimhead ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: October 10 2006 Location: Missouri Status: Offline Points: 19236 |
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What he said as well as they tend to keep the fringe parties out of the debates and make it so that they have to get so many signatures to get on the ballot and then if they don't get enough of a percentage during the general election they have to go through the whole process again. I would like to see a debate between 3,4 or 5 parties when it comes to the Presidential elections. If we get debates with McCain/Obama I guaranty you won't see a third party in the debate. |
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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The differance is that presidents need more checks because they alone head the executive branch. the legislative branch dosn't need term limits on individual members because the head of the legislative branch is not one person, rather it is 535 seperate people divided into two seperate houses. A senator is only 1/100 of the senate and a house rep. is only 1/435 of the house and nither the house or the senate can get anything done without the other. There wouldn't need to be term limits on the executive if we gave up the whole "leader" Idea and instituted a council of hundreds of representitives. But because our founding fathers wanted to be taken seriously by the other countries at the time they felt they needed to install one man to represent the country. After FDR had his four term presidency the republicans got pissed off and pushed for term limits, wich while instituted for stupid reasons do serve as a usefull check on the powers of the president.
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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