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richardh
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Topic: Most Overated Thread Posted: April 08 2004 at 16:30 |
corbet wrote:
richardh wrote:
Basically the most overated band thread annoyed me because attacking (as I see it) the major players of the genre (ELP,Yes and Genesis etc) is stupendously silly.This is a PROG Forum ffs.Where would prog rock be without these bands??Thinking about it,this forum would instantly go up in a puff of smoke. |
I think you forget that there are probably a lot of people who visit this site who don't even listen to bands like ELP, Yes and Genesis...
I would halt all the complaining going on in these forums (by quite a few people) about "too many stars!!" and "too few stars!!!" and "he ripped up my favorite album!!" and so on... to me it just comes off as so much fussing about puffed-up opinions that people cherish too dearly and want to have "standardized" in some way. What a joke! Really, think about it.
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I've thought about it a lot.Actually the last 25 years or so since I bought my first ELP album and then read all the tripe that was coming from many music critics about my beloved music.I've had my fill of it quite honestly and if I see fit to have a grumble I will.
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Stormcrow
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Posted: April 08 2004 at 11:57 |
corbet wrote:
I think you forget that there are probably a lot of people who visit this site who don't even listen to bands like ELP, Yes and Genesis... |
Well if they are not, why aren't they???
corbet wrote:
I would halt all the complaining going on in these forums (by quite a few people) about "too many stars!!" and "too few stars!!!" and "he ripped up my favorite album!!" and so on... to me it just comes off as so much fussing about puffed-up opinions that people cherish too dearly and want to have "standardized" in some way. What a joke! Really, think about it. |
EGAD, MAN! You're talking about eliminating half of the forum traffic!!!!
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corbet
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 22:44 |
richardh wrote:
Basically the most overated band thread annoyed me because attacking (as I see it) the major players of the genre (ELP,Yes and Genesis etc) is stupendously silly.This is a PROG Forum ffs.Where would prog rock be without these bands??Thinking about it,this forum would instantly go up in a puff of smoke. |
I think you forget that there are probably a lot of people who visit this site who don't even listen to bands like ELP, Yes and Genesis...
I would halt all the complaining going on in these forums (by quite a few people) about "too many stars!!" and "too few stars!!!" and "he ripped up my favorite album!!" and so on... to me it just comes off as so much fussing about puffed-up opinions that people cherish too dearly and want to have "standardized" in some way. What a joke! Really, think about it.
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richardh
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 17:37 |
maani wrote:
Richard:
What an interesting idea: an "anti"-thread. Hmmm... Since the "Gods" of progarchives have given me absolute power over the forums, I will, as you suggest, take into serious consideration whether particular threads have "outgrown their usefulness"...
That said, I actually like the idea of an anti-thread. Let's see where this one leads. After all, I might just decide that this thread is worthy of deletion...
In the meantime, my own (official?) two cents worth here. For the "regulars" (and...uh...irregulars?), band-related threads can seem like so much opinionated "wheel-spinning." However, they can be a good source of info (pro and con) for newbies and occasional visitors. For that reason, it would seem worthwhile to maintain them for a period. Also keep in mind that the entire forum idea is still basically in its infancy: it was only started a few months ago. In this regard, one of my new "jobs" (for which they are paying me the "big bucks"...) will be to help Max et al determine how things are going, how things might be tweaked/modified, etc.
Still, keep those cards and letters coming... And feel free to post additional anti-threads if you feel so inclined...
Peace.
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Basically the most overated band thread annoyed me because attacking (as I see it) the major players of the genre (ELP,Yes and Genesis etc) is stupendously silly.This is a PROG Forum ffs.Where would prog rock be without these bands??Thinking about it,this forum would instantly go up in a puff of smoke.
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 11:57 |
Don't blame me, blame john dewey.
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Peter
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 08:40 |
Jim Garten wrote:
Glass-Prison wrote:
[QUOTE=maani]
Elfangio:
By all means! However, remember that double negatives cancel themselves out. Thus, anything beyond "anti" is "anti"-itself... I only fear that an "anti-anti-anti-thread" is already in the works...
Peace.
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Well, in the case of a triple negative, it would happen to work out to a negative, just like any odd number of negatives. to get your mind around it, remember this: the not-unblack dog chased the not-un-fast rabbit across the not-un-green field.
| Calling Peter Rideout - you're the English major here - you sort it out!![/QUOTE]
Glass is correct. As with math, an odd number of negatives remains negative. An even number cancel themselves out. If you say "I didn't do nothing," then that means that you did do something.
Thus, in the convoluted example above, we have a black dog, a fast rabbit, a green field, and a terrible sentence!
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: April 07 2004 at 03:34 |
Glass-Prison wrote:
maani wrote:
Elfangio:
By all means! However, remember that double negatives cancel themselves out. Thus, anything beyond "anti" is "anti"-itself... I only fear that an "anti-anti-anti-thread" is already in the works...
Peace.
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Well, in the case of a triple negative, it would happen to work out to a negative, just like any odd number of negatives. to get your mind around it, remember this: the not-unblack dog chased the not-un-fast rabbit across the not-un-green field. |
Calling Peter Rideout - you're the English major here - you sort it out!!
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 19:21 |
maani wrote:
Elfangio:
By all means! However, remember that double negatives cancel themselves out. Thus, anything beyond "anti" is "anti"-itself... I only fear that an "anti-anti-anti-thread" is already in the works...
Peace.
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Well, in the case of a triple negative, it would happen to work out to a negative, just like any odd number of negatives. to get your mind around it, remember this: the not-unblack dog chased the not-un-fast rabbit across the not-un-green field.
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Dan Bobrowski
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 10:25 |
A pint of Prog-Grog, I'd say!!
pip, pip and all that rot.
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Joren
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 07:23 |
What have y'all been drinking?!
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Jim Garten
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 07:21 |
And sillier!!
Edited by Jim Garten
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Stormcrow
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 06:51 |
maani wrote:
Elfangio:
By all means! However, remember that double negatives cancel themselves out. Thus, anything beyond "anti" is "anti"-itself... I only fear that an "anti-anti-anti-thread" is already in the works...
Peace.
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HA! I say, HA!
Too late Manni, old thing. I'm already developing the first strike capability of the PRO-anti-anti-anti-thread!
I shall RULE, and rule ALL! MWA-HA-HA-HA
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Jim Garten
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 03:24 |
This is just getting silly!
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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maani
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Posted: April 06 2004 at 00:27 |
Elfangio:
By all means! However, remember that double negatives cancel themselves out. Thus, anything beyond "anti" is "anti"-itself... I only fear that an "anti-anti-anti-thread" is already in the works...
Peace.
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elfangio
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 16:13 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
I knew that one was coming! |
This one was easy, but someone HAD to do it
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Great shredding is cheddar cheese on a taco (Ron Thal).
"Mr Neal Morse from Mars, by way of Las Vegas and Nashville"
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 16:07 |
I knew that one was coming!
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elfangio
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 16:03 |
@maani: can we post an "anti-anti thread"?
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Great shredding is cheddar cheese on a taco (Ron Thal).
"Mr Neal Morse from Mars, by way of Las Vegas and Nashville"
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maani
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Posted: April 05 2004 at 01:32 |
Richard:
What an interesting idea: an "anti"-thread. Hmmm... Since the "Gods" of progarchives have given me absolute power over the forums, I will, as you suggest, take into serious consideration whether particular threads have "outgrown their usefulness"...
That said, I actually like the idea of an anti-thread. Let's see where this one leads. After all, I might just decide that this thread is worthy of deletion...
In the meantime, my own (official?) two cents worth here. For the "regulars" (and...uh...irregulars?), band-related threads can seem like so much opinionated "wheel-spinning." However, they can be a good source of info (pro and con) for newbies and occasional visitors. For that reason, it would seem worthwhile to maintain them for a period. Also keep in mind that the entire forum idea is still basically in its infancy: it was only started a few months ago. In this regard, one of my new "jobs" (for which they are paying me the "big bucks"...) will be to help Max et al determine how things are going, how things might be tweaked/modified, etc.
Still, keep those cards and letters coming... And feel free to post additional anti-threads if you feel so inclined...
Peace.
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dude
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Location: Australia
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Posted: April 04 2004 at 22:02 |
what an odd thread!!
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Marcelo
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Joined: February 15 2004
Location: Argentina
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Posted: April 04 2004 at 17:35 |
How can I define overrated? If I don't like hard rock, for me Led Zeppelin is an overrated band. The same case with folk prog and Jethro Tull, or fusion style with Brand X, etc... I have a friend who loves disco music, and for him Genesis era Gabriel or first Wakeman's albums are totally overrated music. You can find him at forensic office
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