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micky 
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:35 |
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hey Doc... you always have my PM.... it isn't easy to deal
with... trust me. The hardest yet most fulfilling and worthwhile time
of my not so uneventful life. Drop me a line if you need to vent
in private. Or just chat....if anyone knows what you are
going through.. I do.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 16:29 |
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Doc, since you're both serious about your relationship, you shouldn't worry. A good friend of mine could only see her English boyfriend in person a few times a year for about five years and they had to go through A LOT of annoying legal and non-legal obstacles, but they persisted, and they have been a very happily married couple for some three years now. It'll all work out 
I guess that also goes for you, Ghostrider
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Thanks Visitor. Yes, it can be done and it will probably all work out in the end. I guess I'm a little afraid that maybe she's not as serious as I am, but that is probably the wrong way to look at it. She probably wants us together as much as I do, she just wants to do it the responsible way. 
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 15:03 |
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I also meant to add that they live together now.
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:58 |
Doc, since you're both serious about your relationship, you shouldn't worry. A good friend of mine could only see her English boyfriend in person a few times a year for about five years and they had to go through A LOT of annoying legal and non-legal obstacles, but they persisted, and they have been a very happily married couple for some three years now. It'll all work out
I guess that also goes for you, Ghostrider
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 14:21 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
I am so sorry to hear that, though I can also understand her. If you didn't find work, you would end up depending on her, and I don't suppose she is a millionaire. Unfortunately, for people in our situation the best thing to do (or even the only) is to get married... In Europe, at least, that would guarantee you the right to stay with her - unlike what happens in the US, which have the nerve to keep married couples separated from months.
I don't know what the situation in Poland may be, but I know it's very hard for a foreigner who doesn't speak Italian to find a job here that doesn't involve risking their life big time. As I said, I can't fault her... I really wish things would work out for you.
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Oh, I don't fault her either. It is a tough situation we find ourselves in and it is hard to determine the right way to approach a solution. I'm just worried that the distance will become too great an obstacle for us. And I don't want to lose her. 
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 13:47 |
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I am so sorry to hear that, though I can also understand her. If you didn't find work, you would end up depending on her, and I don't suppose she is a millionaire. Unfortunately, for people in our situation the best thing to do (or even the only) is to get married... In Europe, at least, that would guarantee you the right to stay with her - unlike what happens in the US, which have the nerve to keep married couples separated from months.
I don't know what the situation in Poland may be, but I know it's very hard for a foreigner who doesn't speak Italian to find a job here that doesn't involve risking their life big time. As I said, I can't fault her... I really wish things would work out for you.
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 12:03 |
Ghost Rider wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
However, while I was there, my girlfriend was very keen on the idea of me moving to Europe next month. Now she is having second thoughts.  She is afraid of me moving there without having a job. I keep telling her, it will be easier to find a job there if I am actually there, but she doesn't seem to agree. So my plans for moving to Europe and our future together is now rather uncertain. |
I don't know if the situation in Poland is the same as here (it should be), but Americans are not supposed to be able to look for work while here on a tourist visa or visa waiver programme. Work visas should be applied for while in the US, and they must be sponsored by someone. If you got married to your girlfriend, then you could probably stay and look for work - if you don't. I'm afraid you can't.
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Technically, yes, that is true in Poland. However, I know a few Americans who went there without, found work, came home to get their visa and returned. Also, I have done some research into the whole work visa thing, and Germany actually allows US citizens to come there and stay up to 90 days to look for work and obtain a work permit and residency visa from within Germany. My plan was to visit her in Poland for a week or two and then go to Frankfurt or Munich to find work there. Although I wouldn't be living in the same country as her, it would only be a 2-hour flight to visit, instead of the 16-hour flight I have now. We could see each other on the weekends at least. That was my plan anyway. But she is afraid. I don't know what our future holds now. 
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 11:22 |
The Doctor wrote:
However, while I was there, my girlfriend was very keen on the idea of me moving to Europe next month. Now she is having second thoughts. She is afraid of me moving there without having a job. I keep telling her, it will be easier to find a job there if I am actually there, but she doesn't seem to agree. So my plans for moving to Europe and our future together is now rather uncertain. |
I don't know if the situation in Poland is the same as here (it should be), but Americans are not supposed to be able to look for work while here on a tourist visa or visa waiver programme. Work visas should be applied for while in the US, and they must be sponsored by someone. If you got married to your girlfriend, then you could probably stay and look for work - if you don't. I'm afraid you can't.
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Posted: November 28 2007 at 09:48 |
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I know exactly what you mean Raf. When I came back yesterday into the US, they gave me a hassle, and I'm a  U.S. citizen. They wanted to know every detail of my life for the past week, since I had left the country. I was surprised they didn't ask for a DNA sample, so that they could confirm I am who I said I was. 
And, that is part of the reason it is easier for me to move to her, than it would be for her to move to me. She has a business visa for travel here for her job, but I'm sure if she tried to move here, it would be an enormous hassle and an iffy proposition at best. The only hassle for me moving there, fortunately, is finding a job. I hope you and Micky will be able to work through the b.s. involved in immigration.
I have pretty much decided I'm going there and will make it work somehow. Life is too short not to take chances, especially when it involves being with the person you love. I really hope you and Micky can make it all work out. |
wow... never have once had a problem coming back into the states...
well said Doc.. .glad... hell  .... very happy that everything went as you had hoped. That said.. nice to have you back.. at least for a few weeks.
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Oh you wouldn't get rid of me that easily Micky.  Even if I move to Europe, I'd still be around.
However, while I was there, my girlfriend was very keen on the idea of me moving to Europe next month. Now she is having second thoughts. She is afraid of me moving there without having a job. I keep telling her, it will be easier to find a job there if I am actually there, but she doesn't seem to agree. So my plans for moving to Europe and our future together is now rather uncertain.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 02:20 |
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Life is too short not to take chances, especially when it involves being with the person you love. |
That, Doc, is wisdom. I'm glad you learned that before it was too late, not like I did.
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Posted: November 27 2007 at 02:03 |
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It's a question about time before you have to answer 50 questions about yourself and what your travelling purpose are just to travel to your neighbour country. It's incredibly frustrating. I don't travel that way much, but I think asking about every single detail you have done during your vacation is pushing it way too far. Passport and ticket/boarding card is enough if you ask me.
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 20:16 |
The Doctor wrote:
I know exactly what you mean Raf. When I came
back yesterday into the US, they gave me a hassle, and I'm a U.S.
citizen. They wanted to know every detail of my life for the past
week, since I had left the country. I was surprised they didn't
ask for a DNA sample, so that they could confirm I am who I said I
was.
And, that is part of the reason it is easier for me to move to
her, than it would be for her to move to me. She has a
business visa for travel here for her job, but I'm sure if she tried to
move here, it would be an enormous hassle and an iffy proposition at
best. The only hassle for me moving there, fortunately, is
finding a job. I hope you and Micky will be able to work through
the b.s. involved in immigration.
I have pretty much decided I'm going there and will make it work
somehow. Life is too short not to take chances, especially when
it involves being with the person you love. I really hope you and
Micky can make it all work out. |
wow... never have once had a problem coming back into the states...
well said Doc.. .glad... hell .... very happy that everything went as you had hoped. That said.. nice to have you back.. at least for a few weeks.
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 15:13 |
I know exactly what you mean Raf. When I came back yesterday into the US, they gave me a hassle, and I'm a U.S. citizen. They wanted to know every detail of my life for the past week, since I had left the country. I was surprised they didn't ask for a DNA sample, so that they could confirm I am who I said I was.
And, that is part of the reason it is easier for me to move to her, than it would be for her to move to me. She has a business visa for travel here for her job, but I'm sure if she tried to move here, it would be an enormous hassle and an iffy proposition at best. The only hassle for me moving there, fortunately, is finding a job. I hope you and Micky will be able to work through the b.s. involved in immigration.
I have pretty much decided I'm going there and will make it work somehow. Life is too short not to take chances, especially when it involves being with the person you love. I really hope you and Micky can make it all work out.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 12:05 |
I really hope you'll be able to stay. Unfortunately, it won't be the same in my case  .... After the holidays I'll come back to Rome, and heaven knows when Micky and I will be able to meet again. And I'd better stop here, because I could start spouting very negative things about the paranoia of certain countries ...
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 10:39 |
The beer is kinda expensive here, but home brewed booze is a speciality here though
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 10:27 |
Thanks Blowie. I had a great time and I'm looking forward to returning in a few weeks. I'm hoping to stay this time, and maybe someday I'll swing by Norway for a beer or 12. 
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 10:21 |
Welcome home!
I presume you had a good time, Doc?
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Posted: November 26 2007 at 09:52 |
Tuzvihar wrote:
Visitor13 wrote:
Well, what do you know, I'm actually going to Poznan next weekend.
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Yeah! Get him!!! Don't let him steal our girls!!!
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Too late.
Europe is safe once again, for I have returned to the US.
However, I will be returning to Poland in 4 weeks to spend Christmas and New Years with my sweetie. And we are talking about the possibility of me staying in Europe once I'm there. Europe is going to become a very dangerous place.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: November 20 2007 at 20:17 |
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Posted: November 20 2007 at 19:54 |
Who's Europe? 
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