herbie hancock-for prog?

Hancock is a versatile musician, he can play in any style. His deeper, jazzy works are legendary, his "Headhunters" period is more accessable and better known. "Rockit"??? Well, that was embarassing.

OK, I'd say no to his inclusion at this point - at least not until after Miles Davis becomes "tolerated" here. Secondly, I have the feeling that he wouldn't pass an audience with Zappa. For some reason, Hancock appears to lack character. Great musician, but something is missing. George Duke may not have been as successful as Hancock, but he displays warmth in his music. Much rather him.

Herbie Hancock made his share of anodyne jazz funk, but anybody who judges his entire output on some slightly dodgy 80s hits should also dismiss Gabriel era Genesis on the basis of Invisible Touch, or Yes on the basis of The Big Generator. As much as I like Future Shock and Headhunters I wouldn't necessarily say they have a place in the archive, but the Mwandishi albums are as prog as jazz fusion ever got - electric keyboards, complex time signatures, adventurous synth work (on Crossings and Sextant) and imaginative arrangements. If you haven't heard those albums, shut the  up and beg, borrow or steal them as soon as possible.

His albums "headunters" or "Thrust" are classic  fusion albums. During these recordings in solo, Hancock delivered true, "authentic" progressive music (If I admit the term in its most generous sense)

Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie
Hancock's music.  His Mwandishi period was some
of the most creative music ever made, and his
Sextant-Headhunters-Thrust-Manchild albums fit
comfortably into the fusion genre. 

Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the
literal sense of the word -- much more musically
experimental than dozens of the artistically bankrupt
neo-prog and prog metal crap that gets praised so
much in there.

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Evidently he was too creative early on and not british
enough to be included. He produced as much good
progressive/fusion as the whole Cacklebury scene
so thats grounds for obvious omission.   

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horza wrote: Tell me when Herbie Hancock is permitted in,thats when I say farewell Get a grip !!!!

Then you obviously don't know much about Herbie Hancock's music.  His Mwandishi period was some of the most creative music ever made, and his Sextant-Headhunters-Thrust-Manchild albums fit comfortably into the fusion genre. 

Even Future Shock was very progressive, in the literal sense of the word -- much more musically experimental than dozens of the artistically bankrupt neo-prog and prog metal crap that gets praised so much in there.

I think that the Mwandishi albums should be included, but as Mwandishi (Herbie Hancock). After all, Chick Corea was only involved in jazz/rock for about the same length of time as Hancock, but nobody has a problem with Return to Forever being included.

rockandrail wrote: Disco-funk-jazz. What I hate most. The next step is Whitney Houston.

 

Thelma Houston - these ladies are related - did a stormer with Scott Henderson (Tribal Tech are here Johnny) on Tore Down House.

 

But too little of Hancock's repertoise/discography is jazz rock even jazz funk to be relevant.

Disco-funk-jazz. What I hate most. The next step is Whitney Houston.

well, it's a quite old topic but I saw it newly!

I vote in favor of Herbie! has produced 3 of the best fusion albums I've ever listened! (Sextant, Head Hunters, Man Child) maybe there's even more...

after all, Al Di Meola is also here! Why not herbie? (this way, we'll have one more black person in progarchives!!)

HE'S MY BEST FRIEND, AND IF ANY OF YOU PICK ON HIM EVER AGAIN, I'LL LEAVE